Supertramp Crime of The Century Sound Quality Question- Help! 2002 vs. 2014 Editions*

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  1. Strat-Mangler

    Strat-Mangler Personal Survival Daily Record-Breaker

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    I might have the good '90 Canadian pressing. If I do, I'd be OK with selling it to you, if you're interested. I'll confirm the DR rating when I get home. I also have the Very Best of Supertramp 2.

    The vinyl is just so much better, but that's just my opinion.
     
  2. Smegman

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  3. Endymion

    Endymion Forum Resident

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    I think buying a compilation instead of the original album would indeed be the Crime of the Century.
     
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  4. Scottb

    Scottb Senior Member Thread Starter

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    I might be interested. If you can let me know the DR numbers and the condition of the CD that would be great. Although the US pressing that's out now could be very close or even the same as the 1990 version?
     
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  5. Strat-Mangler

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    They most likely are interchangeable although the DR rating on the same compilation of the same year seems to differ from the Canadian to the European pressing, highly favoring the Canadian version.
     
  6. Scottb

    Scottb Senior Member Thread Starter

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    Yes and I wonder what the DR numbers are on the US version? Unfortunately no DR numbers for the US edition are on the DR database.
     
  7. PH416156

    PH416156 Alea Iacta Est

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    My european CD has these DR values

    School 13
    Goodbye stranger 15
    The logical song 13
    Bloody well right 14
    Breakfast in america 13
    Rudy 13
    Take the long way home 13
    Crime of the century 12
    Dreamer 12
    Ain't nobody but me 13
    Hide in your shell 13
    From now on 13
    Give a little bit 13
    It's raining again 15
    Cannonball 15

    barcode is 08239709125
    Matrix reads 397 091-2 PHC
     
  8. Scottb

    Scottb Senior Member Thread Starter

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    Amazon has it for $5.00 but it has a release date of 2001 and is listed as remastered. It's one of those add on items on Amazon that can only be bought if you spend $25.00 or more.

    Supertramp - The Very Best Of Supertramp - Amazon.com Music
     
  9. Strat-Mangler

    Strat-Mangler Personal Survival Daily Record-Breaker

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    On the UDRD website, there are two entries for European pressings ; a German one which is good and a European one which is bad. Yours appears to be the good one. :)
     
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  10. Scottb

    Scottb Senior Member Thread Starter

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    Those are great numbers. I just did some comparing on Spotify with tracks from COTC. I compared the Very Best of to the 2014 COTC remaster and even with a lossy format the Very Best of was louder and a bit brighter then the 2014 COTC. Still this Very Best of has so many releases it's insane!!
     
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  11. Strat-Mangler

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    That's nothing. You should see some of the more well known compilations. Instead of the 59 releases of the Supertramp, you're then in the triple digits!
     
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  12. Vinyl Fan 1973

    Vinyl Fan 1973 "They're like soup, they're like....nothing bad"

    There are listings for this comp on Amazon Canada with a date of 1990, so dealing with a 3rd party seller, selling a used copy should yield the pre-remaster version.
     
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  13. PH416156

    PH416156 Alea Iacta Est

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    I'm not sure about the DR values posted for the early release on the UDRD database, I've seen inaccurate reports before.
    IMHO, the "louder" values refer to the remastered edition that was released about 10 years later.


    if you want insane just look at The Joshua Tree :D
     
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  14. Drew769

    Drew769 Buyer of s*** I never knew I lacked

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    That JVC Super Vinyl that they used was truly special. I wonder why they discontinued production of it...probably toxic or something!
     
  15. Strat-Mangler

    Strat-Mangler Personal Survival Daily Record-Breaker

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    The two releases I'm referring to are noted as being from 1990.
     
  16. Duke Fame

    Duke Fame Sold out the Enormodome

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  17. PH416156

    PH416156 Alea Iacta Est

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    Yup, I know. Still, imho, that might be a mistake on the UDRD database regarding this title.
     
  18. Scottb

    Scottb Senior Member Thread Starter

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    I just bought a sealed copy US edition of The Very Best of from 1990. $6.00 with shipping-can't be beat.

    Thanks for all the help and hopefully this will sound good.
     
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  19. PH416156

    PH416156 Alea Iacta Est

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    Exactly. Its formulation and the manufacturing process weren't exactly eco-friendly and the whole process was deemed as malignant for the workers' health.
     
  20. PH416156

    PH416156 Alea Iacta Est

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    Excellent. When you receive it, please let us know how it sounds, and, possibly, its DR and EAC values. Thanks!
     
  21. Scottb

    Scottb Senior Member Thread Starter

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    I'll report back once I get it.
     
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  22. Strat-Mangler

    Strat-Mangler Personal Survival Daily Record-Breaker

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    If you like it, I suggest you grab the 2nd CD as well. You'll then have most of what they made.
     
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  23. Lucidae

    Lucidae AAD

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    By the way if you haven't got it already, I recommend to everyone the Blu-ray of "Live in Paris".
     
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  24. Scottb

    Scottb Senior Member Thread Starter

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    I don't have a Blu-Ray player just yet. Do you know how the DVD is?
     
  25. PH416156

    PH416156 Alea Iacta Est

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