The Absolute Most Essential MSFL Discs To Own

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  1. Chiron

    Chiron Active Member Thread Starter

    Location:
    Houston, Texas
    After finding out that I was close to having one of the apparently best-sounding MOFI's (see "MFSL score!" thread), I want to know which MFSL Gold discs are so faboulous in sound, that they beat any CD issue or heck, any issue of the particular album in question. (BTW, I would like this thread to be for everybody, not just me in particular, but Gold disc newbies like me that appear here) Please do not turn this into a UD1 vs. UD2 thread, also; just the best MFSL's ever made.
     
  2. chrischross

    chrischross New Member

    Location:
    Vancouver, WA
    Out of the dozen or so MFSL's I have, Elton John's "Honky Chateau" UD1 sticks out.

    Fun thing to do -- compare the equivalent tracks on this disc with Steve's DCC Elton John GH! Come to think of it, I'll go do that now.:)

    Before I joined this forum, you wouldn't catch me dead with two versions of the same song. Now, I seek out the opportunity to compare.
     
  3. mrstats

    mrstats Senior Member

    So, which version do you like best, the DCC or MFSL?
     
  4. peterC

    peterC Aussie Addict

    Location:
    sydney
    Out of the 20 I own:

    Innervisions
    Blood Sweat & Tears
     
  5. John Carsell

    John Carsell Forum Resident

    Location:
    Northwest Illinois
    Allman Brothers Band - Eat a Peach
    Boz Scaggs - Silk Degrees
    Eric Clapton - Slowhand
    John Lennon & Yoko Ono - Double Fantasy
    Dr. John - Gumbo/In The Right Place (2 'fer)

    Well those are 5 that I can think of offhand anyway...
     
  6. Roland Stone

    Roland Stone Offending Member

    My ten favorites:

    Cannonball Adderly - SOMETHIN' ELSE

    Bobby Bland - TOUCH OF THE BLUES & SPOTLIGHTING THE MAN

    John Coltrane - BLUE TRAIN

    Derek & The Dominos - LAYLA & OTHER ASSORTED LOVE SONGS

    Bob Marley- EXODUS

    R.E.M. - MURMUR

    R.E.M. - RECKONING

    Sonny Terry & Brownie McGee - SONNY & TERRY

    Sarah Vaughan - LIVE IN JAPAN

    Muddy Waters - FOLK SINGER
     
  7. Dave

    Dave Esoteric Audio Research Specialist™

    Location:
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    The DCC Elton John is in a league of it's own.
     
  8. -Ben

    -Ben Senior Member

    Location:
    Washington DC Area
    AAAAHHHHH...YES....THE first commandment for becoming a REAL audiophile. (No expensive equipment necessary) JUST compare. Without the willingness to compare you are always going to think that what you already have is the best just because you don't want to spend more money or admit that you made the wrong choice the first time. Maybe you just don't want to risk buying something worse than what you already have.

    I say: "seek out the opportunity to compare".

    :thumbsup: Chrischross
     
  9. ascot

    ascot Senior Member

    Location:
    Wisconsin
    You'll probably get dozens of answers to this question. I will recommend Simon and Garfunkel's Bookends as an essential. This just blew away the previous CD's although I do not have the current re-master.
     
  10. chrischross

    chrischross New Member

    Location:
    Vancouver, WA
    OK -- finally did an fairly exhaustive comparison of "Honky Cat" between the MFSL and Steve's DCC. At first, I preferred the MFSL, as the level is boosted slightly, so the initial banjo?? plink sounds great. When playing the DCC, I pushed the volume up slightly to equalize the MFSL, and it just has it all over the MFSL, especially with the horn section and bass. Oh -- and Elton's vocals.

    Not to say the MFSL is bad mind you, but the DCC is on another level. Have to say I agree with Dave on this one!
     
  11. Chiron

    Chiron Active Member Thread Starter

    Location:
    Houston, Texas
    In the other thread, fellow member Dave said that the UD1 MFSL discs are essential, with a few exceptions. Can you please name the stinkers in this group, fellow SH Forum members?:

    UDCD 503
    Joe Jackson
    Will Power

    UDCD 504
    Brad Miller
    The Power and the Majesty [Vol. 1]

    UDCD 505

    Supertramp
    Crime of the Century

    UDCD 506
    Dave Grisman
    Hot Dawg

    UDCD 507
    Blind Faith
    Blind Faith

    UDCD 508
    Various Artists
    A Very Special Christmas

    UDCD 509
    Huey Lewis and the News
    Sports

    UDCD 510
    Jethro Tull
    Thick as a Brick

    UDCD 511
    The Police
    Synchronicity

    UDCD 512
    Moody Blues
    Days of Future Passed

    UDCD 513
    Allman Brothers Band
    Eat a Peach

    UDCD 514
    Louis Armstrong & Duke Ellington
    Together for the First Time/The Great Reunion

    UDCD 515
    Steely Dan
    Aja

    UDCD 516
    Elton John
    Madman Across the Water

    UDCD 517
    Pink Floyd
    Dark Side of the Moon

    UDCD 518
    Pink Floyd
    Meddle

    UDCD 519
    Cat Stevens
    Tea for the Tillerman

    UDCD 520
    Def Leppard
    Pyromania

    UDCD 521
    The Beach Boys
    Surfin' U.S.A./ Surfer Girl

    UDCD 522
    John Klemmer
    Touch

    UDCD 523
    Jefferson Airplane
    Crown of Creation

    UDCD 524
    Jethro Tull
    Stand Up

    UDCD 525
    The Carpenters
    A Song for You

    UDCD 526
    Elton John
    Goodbye Yellow Brick Road

    UDCD 527
    The Band
    Music from Big Pink

    UDCD 528
    Sting
    The Dream of the Blue Turtles

    UDCD 529
    Various Artists
    After the Hurricane: Songs for Montserrat

    UDCD 530
    Hall and Oates
    Voices

    UDCD 531
    Jeff Beck
    Wired

    UDCD 532
    Rod Stewart
    Every Picture Tells a Story

    UDCD 533
    The Who
    Tommy

    UDCD 534
    Supertramp
    Breakfast in America

    UDCD 535
    Boz Scaggs
    Silk Degrees

    UDCD 536
    Elton John
    Honky Chateau

    UDCD 537
    Pink Floyd
    The Wall

    UDCD 538
    Frank Sinatra
    Songs for Swingin' Lovers

    UDCD 539
    Joe Jackson
    Night and Day

    UDCD 540
    Jefferson Airplane
    Volunteers

    UDCD 541
    Harry Nilsson
    Nilsson Schmilsson

    UDCD 542
    Various Artists
    Red Hot and Blue

    UDCD 543
    Elton John
    Tumbleweed Connection

    UDCD 544
    Brian Adams
    Reckless

    UDCD 545
    Steely Dan
    Gaucho

    UDCD 546
    Sting
    Nothing Like the Sun

    UDCD 547
    John Coltrane
    Blue Train

    UDCD 548
    B.B. King
    Live at the Regal

    UDCD 549
    Earl Klugh
    Finger Paintings

    UDCD 550
    The Who
    Quadrophenia

    UDCD 551
    Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers
    Damn the Torpedoes

    UDCD 552
    Santana
    Abraxas

    UDCD 553
    Eric Clapton
    Slowhand

    UDCD 554
    Stevie Wonder
    Innervisions

    UDCD 555
    Roy Orbison
    Mystery Girl

    UDCD 556
    Lynyrd Skynyrd
    Second Helping

    UDCD 557
    Keith Richards
    Talk is Cheap

    UDCD 558
    Allman Brothers Band
    Live at Fillmore East

    UDCD 559
    Blood, Sweat & Tears
    Blood, Sweat & Tears

    UDCD 560
    Elvis Presley
    That's the Way it Is

    UDCD 561
    The Who
    Who are You

    UDCD 562
    Cream
    Disraeli Gears

    UDCD 563
    Cannonball Adderley
    Somethin' Else

    UDCD 564
    Robert Cray
    Strong Persuader

    UDCD 565
    Tom Petty
    Hard Promises

    UDCD 566
    Jimmy Reed
    Jimmy Reed At Carnegie Hall / The Best of Jimmy Reed

    UDCD 567
    John Lee Hooker
    The Healer
     
  12. chrischross

    chrischross New Member

    Location:
    Vancouver, WA
    Argghh -- duhhh! Forgot about that one -- got this one long before joining the forum and I have to agree.
     
  13. Chiron

    Chiron Active Member Thread Starter

    Location:
    Houston, Texas
    MFSL's so far (UD2's only; still waiting for replies about which UD1's to avoid):


    John Lennon & Yoko Ono - Double Fantasy
    Dr. John - Gumbo/In The Right Place (2 'fer)
    Bobby Bland - TOUCH OF THE BLUES & SPOTLIGHTING THE MAN
    Derek & The Dominos - LAYLA & OTHER ASSORTED LOVE SONGS
    Bob Marley- EXODUS
    R.E.M. - MURMUR
    R.E.M. - RECKONING
    Sonny Terry & Brownie McGee - SONNY & TERRY
    Sarah Vaughan - LIVE IN JAPAN
    Muddy Waters - FOLK SINGER
    Simon and Garfunkel - Bookends
    The Alan Parsons Project - Tales of Mystery & Imagination
    XTC - Skylarking
     
  14. fjhuerta

    fjhuerta New Member

    Location:
    México City
    The Alan Parsons Project - Tales of Mistery and Imagination

    This one is completely, absolutely SUPERIOR to Alan Parsons' own 1986 remixed CD. Night and day difference.
     
  15. Roland Stone

    Roland Stone Offending Member

    Chiron -

    Just a note that of my picks, only Muddy Waters's FOLK SINGER is a flat-out audiophile demo disc of the highest sound quality. The others are merely (!) five-star performances in the best sound I've heard. You'll note a preference for jazz and blues.

    The R.E.M. gold discs are significantly better than the current regular issues. The Bob Marley disc has subterranean bass appropriate to the music. If I could add one more rock disc to your list, it'd be XTC's SKYLARKING.

    And while the Cannonball Adderly and John Coltrane discs seem to get re-remastered somewhere around the world every other year, the MFSL gold discs remain the best issues I've heard of these Hard Bop classics. The recent RVG editions of these titles are a bit, ahem, sharp. (I haven't heard previous Japanese editions, however: $$$).

    The MFSL Bobby Bland is preferable to the current MCA catalog equivalents. It and the otherwise unavailable Sarah Vaughan are tough finds, though. The SONNY & TERRY disc is just flat-out enjoyable, and can still be had for less than original asking price.

    One MFSL to avoid, for price and sound, is WHO'S NEXT. Another couple discs that aren't as good as the current regular issues include the Aretha Franklin titles, due to MFSL using the weaker stereo mixes.
     
  16. cosmikdebris

    cosmikdebris Forum Resident

    Location:
    MA
    Dave's avatar says it all.

    Another prime example of MFSL is the BOC 2 for 1
     
  17. Gary

    Gary Nauga Gort! Staff

    Location:
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    It's also the only place that the original mix appears on CD.

    In this case it's not a slight differences in mixes. On the1986 CD, Mr. Parsons added in some significant extra parts. It drove me nuts as I must have played the original LP a million times!
     
  18. Gary

    Gary Nauga Gort! Staff

    Location:
    Toronto
    I've found this to be typical with MFSL vs. DCC. The MFSL is impressive. But the DCC is amazing (better!!!).

    Jethro Tull comes readily to mind.

    But MFSL's are essential in that (for the most part) they had a different catalogue than DCC did.
     
  19. trip1

    trip1 Forum Resident

    Location:
    Saint John, IN
    Low Spark - Traffic
     
  20. fathom

    fathom Senior Member

    Location:
    Florida
    Traffic - Shootout At The Fantasy Factory
    U2 - Joshua Tree
    Robin Trower - Bridge Of Sighs
    Pink Floyd - The Wall
    Blue Oyster Cult - first 2 albums on 1 CD

    I did not like Lennon's Double Fantasy that much. It's better than the normal CD, but the vocals still sound thin.
     
  21. Metralla

    Metralla Joined Jan 13, 2002

    Location:
    San Jose, CA
    Never a UDI - UDCD 564 Robert Cray Strong Persuader

    Supposedly a UDI, but as far as I know, no one has seen it - UDCD 565 Tom Petty Hard Promises, UDCD 567 John Lee Hooker The Healer

    The absolute worst UDIs are:

    1. UDCD 506 Dave Grisman -- Hot Dawg
    2. UDCD 508 Various -- A Very Special Christmas
    3. UDCD 547 John Coltrane -- Blue Train

    These are absolute trash. If you ever see one, just call me and I'll make sure they are disposed of correctly. ;)

    Regards,
    Geoff
     
  22. Chiron

    Chiron Active Member Thread Starter

    Location:
    Houston, Texas
    Allright, here's what I've got so far on the avoid list:

    The Who - Who's Next and Live at Leeds
    Aretha Franklin - I Never Loved A Man... & Lady Soul/Aretha Now
    The Kinks - The Kinks/Kinda Kinks
    Queen - A Night At The Opera (DCC version instead)

    Plus, I don't think I'm going to buy any titles from The Pointer Sisters or Guns N Roses. Actually, is there any reason to get any MFSL's of albums made in the 90's? I mean, since digital masters are used, that they don't sound too different than their regular counterparts, right? Fill me in...
     
  23. Chiron

    Chiron Active Member Thread Starter

    Location:
    Houston, Texas
    More titles:

    Blue Oyster Cult - Tyranny and Mutation/Blue Oyster Cult
    Traffic - Low Spark of the High-Heeled Boys
    Traffic - Shoot out at the Fantasy Factory
    U2 - The Joshua Tree
    Robin Trower - Bridge of Sighs


    (So it seems the UD1's technically end at 563-Cannoball Adderly Somethin Else)

    EDIT: Couldn't forget Surfing With The Alien... :)
     
  24. Dave

    Dave Esoteric Audio Research Specialist™

    Location:
    B.C.
    Chiron,

    Here is the post you requested moved from the other MFSL thread...

    Any artist on MFSL between the catalog numbers UDCD 503 to UDCD 567 with only a couple of exceptions that you enjoy should be in your collection. MFSL Aluminum CD's are also desired for your collection as their sound is often better than the UD2's. Here's a place to do the homework. http://www.aurealm.com/

    Now, the ones that I don't like are Pink Floyd: Dark Side Of The Moon as the Japanese pressing for the US. Toshiba/EMI is by far superior. The Wall as the first issued N. American pressings are miles away from the MFSL. I also prefer any of the DCC's over the MFSL's as they are sonically better as evidenced time and time again. Even Steve's MCA Who masterings are better than the MFSL Who masterings. Same with the Beach Boys. BTW Tom Petty: Hard Promises and John Lee Hooker: The Healer were only made as UD2's. All of the others are fantastic as far as the UD1's go with Boz Scaggs: Silk Degrees standing out front for me personally.

    In regards to your list here the Bobby Bland MFSL is actually an MFSL Aluminum as is Sarah Vaughan. ;)

    John Lennon & Yoko Ono - Double Fantasy
    Dr. John - Gumbo/In The Right Place (2 'fer)
    Bobby Bland - TOUCH OF THE BLUES & SPOTLIGHTING THE MAN
    Derek & The Dominos - LAYLA & OTHER ASSORTED LOVE SONGS
    Bob Marley- EXODUS
    R.E.M. - MURMUR
    R.E.M. - RECKONING
    Sonny Terry & Brownie McGee - SONNY & TERRY
    Sarah Vaughan - LIVE IN JAPAN
    Muddy Waters - FOLK SINGER
    Simon and Garfunkel - Bookends
    The Alan Parsons Project - Tales of Mystery & Imagination

    The only 2 that I don't like are the R.E.M simply because they are bright by the choice of mastering decisions that were made. However, they are still the best sounding of those albums available on CD. The others are all great.

    PS. All in one man's humble opinion.
     
  25. StrawberryFields

    StrawberryFields Active Member

    Location:
    New Jersey
    Blood, Sweat and Tears ... of course this was always a very well-recorded work, to begin with. MFSL did an excellent job, though.
     
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