The Beatles and Walter Cronkite: How BEATLEMANIA in the USA began

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  1. beatlematt

    beatlematt Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/martin-lewis/tweet-the-beatles-how-wal_b_239202.html

    Here is a great article documenting how the Beatles became famous in America and Walter Cronkite had a BIG role, that is often overlooked (so does Jack Paar, but that is for another article).

    Also, about midway through the article, you can open a file that is the first documented playing of I Want to Hold Your Hand in America.

    Enjoy!

    Rest in peace Walter.
     
  2. Doug Sclar

    Doug Sclar Forum Legend

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    Thanks Beatlematt. That was a great article.

    One of the comments was interesting. A Canadian resident mentioned watching the Beatles on the Ed Sullivan show. Was it broadcast into Canada in 1964?
     
  3. Phlo

    Phlo Formerly dave-o

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    Long live Uncle Walter.
     
  4. Radiotron

    Radiotron Tube Designer

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    If I'm not mistaken, Ed Sullivan was broadcasted on CBC starting in the 50s.
     
  5. Evan L

    Evan L Beatologist

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    Yes....in introducing the Rolling Stones on one show, Ed mentions being on in Canada.

    Evan
     
  6. Steve Hoffman

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    That was a great article.

    Tying it all in, the day after John Lennon's assassination in December of 1980, we all watched the CBS News with Walter Cronkite the next night to see what the most trusted man in America would make of it. I remember expecting him to devote maybe 4 minutes of the 30 minute broadcast to Lennon. After all, this was a World news program and events were happening everywhere (also our parents were still in charge of networks, newsrooms, etc).

    Cronkite devoted the entire program to John Lennon. I was flabbergasted and quite appreciative. The look on Cronkite's face was like he lost a friend.

    Cronkite remembered the original CBS news segment on the Beatles back in 1963 and the last 5 minutes of the Lennon broadcast in 1980 repeated that original Beatles news story, the one that started it all. It was devastating to say the least. So much lost. Not a dry eye around the TV that night, that's for sure.

    Thank you Walter for caring. RIP.

    (And thank you Marsha Albert, you're one of us.)
     
  7. Dave

    Dave Esoteric Audio Research Specialistâ„¢

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    :agree: I watched with my Dad Doug.
     
  8. Gary

    Gary Nauga Gort! Staff

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    I think you are correct. I remember watching it as a wee lad. :)

    I've a brother in law who saw them at Maple Leaf Gardens with his future wife.
     
  9. Marty Milton

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    In the comment section of this article someone mentions that the CBS Morning News did a filmed piece on the Beatles on the morning of November 22, 1963. That piece would have been repeated for the CBS Evening News, but the Evening News program was pre-empted after the tragic event of that afternoon.
     
  10. Gardo

    Gardo Audio Epistemologist

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    I remember that 1980 broadcast. It was cathartic, like being able to mourn with the whole nation. Walter Cronkite was a gem. We will not see his like again.
     
  11. Reader

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    Thanks for the link. I agree he deserves some credit for this. He was a very special person and it's amazing how many people he touched over his many years of work.

    Isn't it amazing how many R.I.P. threads are open today?
     
  12. Veech

    Veech Space In Sounds

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    A wonderful article, perhaps my favorite on the birth of Beatlemania. It shows just how much their success was due to so many random occurrences coming together and how the stars were truly in alignment.

    RIP Uncle Walter. We loved and trusted you through those dark and unsure days of VietNam and assassinations, the violence and turmoil of the 1960s. You gave us hope and -- along with your peers Chet Huntley and David Brinkley -- made America feel that somehow it would all be ok. We miss you.
     
  13. Driver 8

    Driver 8 Senior Member

    I remember my Mom letting me get up from the dinner table to watch that night. I was bawling by the end of it.

    I may be dreaming this, but when I was 7 or 8 I remember Cronkite doing a story on the Sex Pistols and the punk rock phenomenon. It has stuck with me to this day.
     
  14. detroit muscle

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  15. What a great article, many thks.
     
  16. Bill

    Bill Senior Member

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    Thanks. Great stuff.
     
  17. bumbletort

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    I remember Walter began that broadcast with some kind of list of important events transpiring in the world, violence in the Middle East, etc. And THEN he said something like: "but all of that will have to wait as the world mourns for a man who sang and played the guitar."

    A man who sang and played the guitar--that's the part I think I remember almost word-for-word and it STILL gives me a grateful shiver whenever I think of it, which is often.

    Funny thing, I lived fairly near Silver Spring in 1963 and I'm pretty sure that intial broadcast of "I Want to Hold our Hand" is when I first heard The Beatles. My reaction was to be STUNNED--and I wasn't even certain if I LIKED or DISLIKED what I heard--it simply transfixed and transported me. A couple more listens changed my life.
     
  18. swandown

    swandown Under Assistant West Coast Forum Resident

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    here is the original broadcast.
     
  19. Gardo

    Gardo Audio Epistemologist

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    Here's the video of Walter Cronkite opening that news broadcast. The footage appears about nine seconds in.
     
  20. PMC7027

    PMC7027 Forum Hall Of Fame

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    I read the linked piece by Martin Lewis. I didn't go over it with a fine toothed comb, but how much of it wasn't in Bruce Spizer's The Beatles Are Coming! book? Lewis mentions the book, but of course not the author.
     
  21. bumbletort

    bumbletort Senior Member

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    Was there a link on here? REALLY like to see that again.
     
  22. Gardo

    Gardo Audio Epistemologist

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    Sorry! Here's the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQ31tc4_9aU. It's just the opening, not the entire broadcast, but it's great to see it again anyway.
     
  23. RetroSmith

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    What seems lost in all this is that After Sullivan saw the reaction at London Airport, he had his son in law (who ran the show) investigate . The info he must have gotten, how they were causing asolute havoc in The UK is probably what pushed Sullivan, not Water Cronkite. But music writers contunue to re-write history.
     
  24. bumbletort

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    "Good evening. The death of a man who sang and played the guitar overshadows the news from Poland, Iran, and Washington tonight . . ."

    Thank you so very much for locating this. Brings back vividly how people from all around this fractured planet pulled together in the wake of that tragedy. Gave and still gives a strange kind of hope. Cronkite distilled that with his simple direct eloquence.
     
  25. telliott

    telliott Senior Member

    I wander if Carroll James had access to any of the other Beatles records in Dec. 63. I know US Beatles records were fairly obscure at the time.

    Tim
     
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