The Grateful Thread

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by JRM, Apr 11, 2014.

  1. Crispy Rob

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    But were they the victim or the times?
     
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  2. wavethatflag

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    Definitely them.

    I think in an alternate reality, where Jerry lived to a ripe old age, Saint would have become a vehicle for monster jams. Of course I see the potential for monster jams in any Dead song, even France.
     
  3. SBegonias17

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    I like Sailor>Saint as well :hide:
     
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  4. DrLunchbox

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    Saint is ok. Lost Sailor is trash. (IMO). And I have a lot of JRAD shows. They played the combo in Denver this year at the Ogden to open the second set.... oof. Did not inspire confidence. Luckily it wasn’t super jammed out and they moved on quickly.

    Every version of Sailor I’ve heard by anyone is a skip. For me.
     
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  5. bmoregnr

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    DaP 13 2-24-74 thanks to a @US Blues tip. First set really right up my alley. Phil on this China Cat is particularly playing tremendously trickily. For the geetar heads, what is that Jer thingy kicking in about 3:25 Candyman, it seems a little different than a straight wah wah but then I am clueless in these matters; that must have been pretty wild bouncing around the room's heads.
     
  6. nitsuj

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    Accurate.

    Jerry New Year!
     
  7. pbuzby

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    Musically I think both Sailor and Saint are ok, especially Sailor (Saint is a bit too Doobie Brothers for my taste). Weir just played them too much.
     
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  8. wavethatflag

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    So true, but that's why I like it. Disturbingly easy to imagine Michael McDonald singing "still don't know what I'm going for" over that piano line. :D
     
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  9. budwhite

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    Happy new year my fellow heads, and all other fine people. 01.15 local time. Got home from my brothers place half an hour ago. Three course dinner, fireworks and all that fun nonsens. Cigar and sparkling wonders from france.

    Winding down with Winterland December 31, 1978.
    I believe the Dead started 00.30 past midnight due to som Bill Graham thing... Anyway, a fine way to close down the old ice rink. Band was road weary and it was '78... so anything goes. But they did a fine job and it's a three set show. A very long night with all the opening acts etc.. I'm sure there were lots of blow to keep the train rollin. (watch out for Jerry on Johnny B Goode)

    I'm just listening this time but I remember the momemt in Scarlet Begonias from the video when Garcia get that acid grin. Band locks in. Music plays the band.

    Skål!
     
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  10. adamos

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    I really don’t mind Sailor > Saint, cheesiness aside. Lost Sailor sets a certain mood and Saint of Circumstance can be fun. But like @Crispy Rob said the overplaying of that combo was before my show-going time and I don’t encounter it all that often in my regular listening, so it can feel like something different when I do.
     
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  11. budwhite

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    Akkurat. Måste vara ett norskt lånord :cheers: @BurtThomasWard
     
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  12. adamos

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  13. Crush87

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    You just listed off a bunch of stuff I don't like
     
  14. US Blues

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    "...a ten, NO, twelve foot burning ember of marijuana!"
     
  15. Crush87

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    Every year at this time I listen to the Baby Blue that Jerry sang for Steve Parish. Gut wrenching
     
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  16. US Blues

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    No. Stop whatever you are doing and put this on right away. At least the second set, one of the most fabulous pieces of music in Grateful Dead history! (I'd go full warewolf with my enthusiasm, but I'm too old to go full warewolf :nyah:).
     
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  17. nitsuj

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    godt nytt år!
     
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  18. budwhite

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    Och god fortsättning!

    Going back to Miami 1974, June 23. The Wolf has been mentioned a lot recently. This show is bloody damn good. Jerry's sense of beautiful melody playing really shines in "to lay me down". It's up there with the beautiful jam for me.
    The song is slow, but Jerry goes for an agressive solo, he attacks the strings!
    Just a wonderful show with (also) very good Jerry vocals.
    And ..to bad about the 73/74 vocal recordings but what can you do eh? Still hot stuff!
     
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  19. trd

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    At FTW I was able to go pee and get a beer and walked back to my seat right as they hit Saint

    :goodie:
     
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  20. trd

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    Going with the Closing of Winterland DVD tonight. I’m watching all of the bonus footage first. Been a long time since I watched any of this.

    Happy New Years folks :cheers:
     
  21. JRM

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    Closing it down on 12/31/78. Happy New Year, y’all!

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  22. budwhite

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    "Whatever's going on in the rest of the world, if it's wars or kidnappings or crimes, this is a peaceful Sunday night with the Grateful Dead."

    Bill Graham.
    4 years earlier at Winterland.
    (A hint, it's from the third show of the year)
     
  23. budwhite

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    The sound 5.1 sound mix is a nice choice when watching. Nice multitrack mix as pointed out before
     
  24. US Blues

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    "As it should be, on a Sunday night in San Francisco, The Grateful Dead!"

    Bill Graham.
    8 months later at Winterland.
    (A hint, it's the final show of the year.)
     
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  25. Stone Turntable

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    Damn, that sounds like good advice on a wintry New Year's Eve. (12/31/72, that is.)
     
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