Todd Rundgren new SACD titles, mastered Kevin Gray

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Jack, Nov 22, 2017.

  1. art

    art Senior Member

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    These are sooo good.
     
  2. aoxomoxoa

    aoxomoxoa I'm an ear sitting in the sky

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    I bought them both and enjoy the way they sound but the production of some tracks sometimes lends itself to being a little bright. Still they are the best digital versions I’ve heard but nothing earth shattering, imo.
     
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  3. JediJoker

    JediJoker Audio Engineer/Enthusiast

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    Todd's engineering is sometimes difficult to listen to. Lots of phase "experiments" that make me think there's something wrong with the master or my playback system.
     
  4. BSC

    BSC Forum Resident

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    Confused the hell out of me when my disc arrived......
     
  5. audiomixer

    audiomixer As Bald As The Beatles

    Much more transparency. You can hear much, much more going on in the mix.
     
  6. audiomixer

    audiomixer As Bald As The Beatles

    Great, insightful review; which I totally agree with!
     
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  7. alexpop

    alexpop Power pop + other bad habits....

    How does it compare with mfsl gold or castle CDs?
     
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  8. audiomixer

    audiomixer As Bald As The Beatles

    No comparison at all to either. It's a a league of its own! :righton:
     
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  9. art

    art Senior Member

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    Todd has/had no top end in his hearing. He mixed everything bright. That's why all his productions are that way. That's how the tapes sound.
     
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  10. aoxomoxoa

    aoxomoxoa I'm an ear sitting in the sky

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    I like the MFSL. I don’t think the new SACD is that great of an improvement. The SACD sounds more like the original LP (not necessarily a bad thing) from what I remember but the MFSL smooths out a lot of the brightness of Todd’s original mixes, which to me is a good thing.
     
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  11. alexpop

    alexpop Power pop + other bad habits....

    Something / ?
    I rate the MFSL gold 2 cd.
    Really interested in the SACD if it's supposed to be superior. Any other thumbsaloft ?
     
  12. alexpop

    alexpop Power pop + other bad habits....

    Did you hear the MFSL vinyl S/A?
     
  13. aoxomoxoa

    aoxomoxoa I'm an ear sitting in the sky

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    No just the CD
     
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  14. expo62

    expo62 Forum Resident

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    Question about the cardboard sleeve packaging...

    How does it compare to japanese mini lp packaging? Is it the same size?

    Thanks for any insight.
     
  15. In a head to head comparison, they sounded very similar on my system with the edge to the SACD. The CD layer sounded comparable to the Mofi with a slight difference in brightness.
     
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  16. It's comparable. About the same size. Similar quality
     
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  17. The packaging is nearly identical to MFSL's SACD cardboard sleeve packaging. Analog Spark did a nice job with these SACDs in both packaging and sound.

    It's funny this thread got bumped today. I bought these SACDs very recently. I wouldn't wait if you want the Something/Anything SACD. I noticed it's running low in stock at several different retailers and is even sold out on Analog Spark's own website.
     
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  18. expo62

    expo62 Forum Resident

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    Thanks so much!
     
  19. bluerondo

    bluerondo Forum Resident

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    I may have missed a reference, but due to the lack of mention am I to assume this isn't 5.1?
     
  20. audiomixer

    audiomixer As Bald As The Beatles

    It is not 5.1.
     
  21. Myke

    Myke Trying Not To Spook The Horse

    No, I do not want to own both.
    Damn. On my two setups lately, it's been a more bottom end on the vinyl as opposed to the digital setup. So there's that.
    Then I'm faced with Chris vs. Kevin ? Choose a hero ?
    The final blow : There's only a $1.07 difference in the 2011 vinyl, and the 2017 SACD.
    @bmoregnr has me thinking the vinyl in this case.

    Another example to understand my setups, and there's nothing wrong with my sub (Super Session is a BEAST on SACD)
    ...another example is
    the Big Star SACD is anemic in bottom end ( I know that was John Fry's intention ) while my Classic Records vinyl puts Jody's drums in the room (Chris Bellman masterpieces).

    Sounds like I should choose the...:shrug:
     
  22. SteelyNJ

    SteelyNJ Forum Resident

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    Sorry, MYKE, I've been in and out of this thread. Are you trying to decide on a version of Something/Anything? I'd be happy to post samples of my Rhino vinyl for you to evaluate if you think that would help.
     
  23. Myke

    Myke Trying Not To Spook The Horse

    Thanks, No, I know from experience Chris' work, just like Bernie's is tailor made for my 1978 Jensens. The question is if the SACD is anemic in bass and drums, and from what @bmoregnr said, it sounds like it would be brighter.
    Since posting, I've thought about it, and the vinyl is likely my best bet.
    .
     
  24. SteelyNJ

    SteelyNJ Forum Resident

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    Okay, just trying to help. I like the way the vinyl sounds but I know from previous threads that you and I both like Bellman's work.
     
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  25. Myke

    Myke Trying Not To Spook The Horse

    I like how he's a member here, popping in from time to time.
    This great bottom end thing has me "rediscovering " both Roy Orbison, and CCR ! Somehow, the bulk of both of their collections was on CD and SACD. Recently getting some choice vinyl of both has really changed how they sound to me, and it's great.
     
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