Tris Imboden and Jeff Coffey leave Chicago in the same week

Well, Tanglewood 70 is basically what Hendrix is listening to, it's them touring on their 2nd album, so you should watch some of that, it's so progressive and nobody else was doing what those guys were doing at the time.

But check out 25 or 6, on Tanglewood, thats the hit single they were plugging at the time.
What u should notice is that Kath's solo is little like what was recorded, yeah it touches what was on the record, but completely different for the most part.

During the main song of Make Me Smile, he takes a ripping solo on that, that's not on the single version.
The vocal as I've mentioned is one of my all time favorites, loved as a young lad and still do.

Also the beginning of Colour My World, the gentle volume swells, softer strokes, playing under the flute intro, then the flute solo he backs it up with a firmer rhythm stroke. And the vocal? Just beautiful.

On Beginnings, his melodic strumming to start the tune and lay the foundation for the horns and Lamm's vocal.

I understand if u don't get it, but what I don't get is how u acknowledge the band as great, yet the guy leading the band musically, singing lead on a bunch of songs, perfectly supporting the others as they sing and play, and completely tears it up when called upon to be in the spotlight, and somehow thats not enough?

Just check out the Tanglewood 70 show, that's the legend being created right there, and if u don't get it after watching some of that, then I don't know what to tell you.

 

Ever see/hear Terry play live, in person? I saw him live 4 times, and he was incredible. Terry DROVE that band live in concert. He was the leader of Chicago in a live setting. Panko did most of the talking between songs, but Terry led the band.

Fantastic memories of those concerts!

 

I left Chicago a few times...

 

Here is a video of the new lead singer—uggg

 

I saw him play drums with Santana in 1990, and percussion/drums with Traffic in 1994. He's good.

 

Yes, I get that. As I've said already, he was great...in that band. I'm asking what makes him so incredible otherwise?

Ed

 

Again, though, you're mostly talking greatness within the context of one band. I get that it's all we have to go on but just because he's great in one band doesn't make him a wholesale legend; it just means he's great in one band. I don't agree at all that he "led" the band. He wrote nothing of note (i.e. nothing that hit) and the most memorable leads were done by Peter.

That said, I'm happy to check out "Make Me Smile" and "25 or 6 to 4" from Tanglewood.

Ed

Fixed for poor spelling...LOL!

 

You had me until the end. Clapton is great because he's played in a myriad different situations and shown greatness in all of them. Kath played in only one band and one situation.

Ed

 

I've been listening and listening well for years. As far as "playing lead aggressively and then laying back and being a team player", what's a guitar player in a band is supposed to do. He just did his job. If he couldn't do both, he'd be wrong for a band. I've heard others say that and while it's nice that the can do that, hundreds of players do that. Terry's own style is definitely felt in the band for sure. To whit, I've never heard a multitude of players state that he's been a major influence on their playing. The aforementioned Clapton and SRV are mentioned constantly.

As for who was up front, Cetera was pretty much the front; Terry wasn't. His voice lead most of the hits; Terry's didn't. We don't all like it but the lead vocalist is the lead in this band.

Ed

 

Yeah, he's a slouch. He played a written solo. Parazaider can't improv. He never could. He's proved it over and over again. The evidence is on YouTube. The live solo of "Just You N' Me" he'd pull out is truly wretched.

Ed

 

It's been this way for three decades now, nothing's really changed in that regard.

 

Well, that was quick. Can't keep a good company down, I guess. I am surprised that they've got a separate bass player and singer. Guess desperate times call for desperate measures.

Ed

 

If it's in the studio, they can write it and he plays what they write. They can also "comp". There's no way to know if that stuff is improvised. I can tell of you of at least two instances on their recordings where he's "ghost played" for because he can't cut it.

Ed

 

I don't know what you're "Ugg"-ing about. He's kind of a cross between Peter with some of Jason's tone. He can get the job done. He's certainly got the range for it.

Ed

 

Ah, get someone to look like Jason

 

Well it's great you'll listen to it, and I'd be curious as to what u think.
It's Kath definitely driving the band, not anybody else, they are all looking at Kath.

As for not writing anything of note, that's a valid point.
But u know who else didn't write anything of note? Duane Allman.
Yet he was noted as being a pretty good guitarist, arranger, and band leader.

I'd agree that Cetera was a better singer, but then again Cetera's voice pretty much is cream of the crop in pop music.

 

He retired from the road. Doesnt matter anyway. He doesnt play bass or drums.

 

Okay, I'll bite-- Which songs were these?

 

Lol. Did They really? Wow the plot thickens.

 

Funny. I have a chance to see them play a special event in a few weeks. This is more tragic than Yes.

 

I just watched it last night. Weird.

 

For real?

 

I hope so. There’s something I don’t like about him.

 

Seriously, I did watch it last night.

 

"Forever" from Chicago 18 and "Let's Take A Lifetime" from "SOS" or whatever they're calling it. "Forever" was Dave Boruff and "Let's Take a Lifetime" was Peter Wolf on a synth. "Get on This", which didn't make the album, was basically Kirk Whalum.

Ed