UMe prepping Blu-ray Audio titles for Europe (pt3)

Continued from here:

UMe prepping Blu-ray Audio titles for Europe (pt2)

 

In response to:
jeffrey walshLewis Allan Reed

Does Feist Metals sound better than the cd? That redbook disc was a letdown although no surprise these days.

I would say yes it does. I haven't analysed anything yet (I will when I sort the BD drive for my Mac) but purely by ear it doesn't seem as loud as the iTunes.

I hope to give you something more concrete before too long, though the HFPA is far from a stunning night and day difference, which is both a shame as its a great album and almost to be expected given the state of loudness nonsense etc these days.

 

In response to:


Mr Wensleydale
I will post the DR Of Exile on Main Street a little later when I am back home. FWIW and IIRC it is the same as, or very similar to, the SHM-SACD (DR11).

Interesting.. Thanks Mr. Wensleydale

FWIW, I said on here sometime ago in Part 2., when I first got the Exile HFPA how good I thought it was (purely by ear again, I might add) but soon afterwards others started to get the disc and the bashing started.. and then once the SHM-SACD came into the equation, boom, that was the HFPA out the window! It'd be a bit, well, I don't really know what (ironic/funny/irksome!?) if it turns out they are the same or near identical when the HFPA's a tenner and the SHM is 3 or 4 times that..

 

OK, as promised here is the DR report for the Exile BDA

oobar2000 1.1.12a / Dynamic Range Meter 1.1.1
log date: 2014-03-29 18:23:54

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Analyzed: Rolling Stones / Exile on Main St (24-96)
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DR Peak RMS Duration Track
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DR10 -2.37 dB -14.43 dB 4:33 01-Rocks Off
DR10 -2.47 dB -14.25 dB 2:26 02-Rip This Joint
DR11 -4.02 dB -16.93 dB 2:58 03-Shake Your Hips
DR12 -2.39 dB -16.36 dB 3:36 04-Casino Boogie
DR10 -2.67 dB -14.96 dB 3:49 05-Tumbling Dice
DR12 -2.32 dB -17.65 dB 4:27 06-Sweet Virginia
DR10 -1.04 dB -14.38 dB 4:20 07-Torn and Frayed
DR11 -1.56 dB -15.55 dB 2:59 08-Sweet Black Angel
DR12 -0.65 dB -15.52 dB 4:29 09-Loving Cup
DR11 -1.57 dB -14.19 dB 3:07 10-Happy
DR9 -2.49 dB -12.67 dB 2:38 11-Turd on the Run
DR11 -2.65 dB -15.17 dB 3:25 12-Ventilator Blues
DR11 -5.20 dB -19.26 dB 2:55 13-I Just Want to See His Face
DR11 -1.88 dB -16.79 dB 5:21 14-Let It Loose
DR11 -1.72 dB -15.36 dB 3:51 15-All Down the Line
DR10 -1.26 dB -12.96 dB 4:38 16-Stop Breaking Down
DR13 -1.30 dB -17.99 dB 4:17 17-Shine a Light
DR10 -0.44 dB -12.79 dB 3:56 18-Soul Survivor
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Number of tracks: 18
Official DR value: DR11

Samplerate: 96000 Hz
Channels: 2
Bits per sample: 24
Bitrate: 2964 kbps
Codec: FLAC
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And here is the DR report for the SHM-CD which is the same mastering as the SHM-SACD:

oobar2000 1.1.12a / Dynamic Range Meter 1.1.1
log date: 2014-03-29 19:06:29

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Analyzed: Rolling Stones, The / Exile On Main St. (SHM-CD)
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DR Peak RMS Duration Track
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DR10 -2.35 dB -14.47 dB 4:34 01-Rocks Off
DR10 -2.51 dB -14.15 dB 2:23 02-Rip This Joint
DR11 -4.01 dB -16.99 dB 3:01 03-Shake Your Hips
DR12 -2.38 dB -16.35 dB 3:36 04-Casino Boogie
DR10 -2.71 dB -14.95 dB 3:49 05-Tumbling Dice
DR12 -2.29 dB -17.64 dB 4:27 06-Sweet Virginia
DR11 -1.07 dB -14.37 dB 4:19 07-Torn & Frayed
DR11 -1.57 dB -15.54 dB 3:00 08-Sweet Black Angel
DR11 -0.92 dB -15.51 dB 4:28 09-Loving Cup
DR11 -1.58 dB -14.11 dB 3:06 10-Happy
DR9 -2.49 dB -12.66 dB 2:39 11-Turd On The Run
DR11 -2.62 dB -15.16 dB 3:25 12-Ventilator Blues
DR11 -5.19 dB -19.27 dB 2:55 13-I Just Want To See His Face
DR11 -1.95 dB -16.78 dB 5:21 14-Let It Loose
DR11 -1.70 dB -15.35 dB 3:51 15-All Down The Line
DR10 -1.29 dB -12.91 dB 4:35 16-Stop Breaking Down
DR13 -1.29 dB -18.03 dB 4:19 17-Shine A Light
DR10 -0.41 dB -12.67 dB 3:50 18-Soul Survivor
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Number of tracks: 18
Official DR value: DR11

Samplerate: 44100 Hz
Channels: 2
Bits per sample: 16
Bitrate: 1004 kbps
Codec: FLAC
================================================================================

 

I knew it! They're identical! Thank you so much for doing this Mr.W!

I tell you what is also encouraging, about the state of my ears, the track I said was a standout SQ-wise on the HFPA when I first got it, purely by ear, was "Shine A Light" .. and it's got the biggest dynamic range on it! Coincidence? Of course.. but.. it does sound superb! I was gobsmacked when I heard it!

I said on this forum back then that I couldn't see how the Blu-ray could be bettered and that it sounded the best I'd ever heard the album.. well, I stick by that now and the very respectable DR is a bonus.

To anyone who doesn't have the HFPA of Exile already, I'd say go for it! It's great!

 

I bought it yesterday on your recommendation, so I am very pleased as well!

 

Yeay! You've made my day!

I know I'm new around here but I'm not new to all this hunting for great sounding records pallava! Alright, I've bashed a lot of these HFPA's (rightly so imho.. many are crap.. and tried to be as honest as poss., so it's great to hear that you got it on my rec and it's turned out to be such a good'un!

 

I am gonna pick this one up too. Thanks

 

Yeay! Yeay! You're v.welcome. I hope you enjoy it as much as I do!

When Universal get these HFPA's right, they really are excellent. When they get them wrong.. oh are they duff!

I think UMe need to start garnering feedback from sites such as this (and now QuadraphonicQuad and SA-CD.net are very active with chat about HFPA and BD-A) so they can raise the overall standard of releases and with a bit of luck, keep the standard high.

 

http://store.acousticsounds.com/d/94269/Supertramp-Crime_Of_The_Century-Blu-ray_Audio

Hoping they don't cancel this out!

 

afaik, it's been delayed so they can use Ken Scott's new 2014 remaster on the Blu-ray (rather than they just use whatever they had lying around in the vault already, like the Breakfast in America HFPA).

 

Does Ken Scott show up here anymore? Would love to hear some chatter about this one.

 

I read a post on an Elton thread saying they hadn't seen him on here in a while

Even so, I think the whole things been kept pretty much under wraps, the 40th anniversary is going to be a huge deal for Universal, from what I can gather.

afaik, there'll be a 2-disc Deluxe Edition, HFPA Blu-ray and Super Deluxe set.

most elements have been ready for a while apparently but Ken Scott has been really busy remixing live material into 5.1 for a DVD. I don't know if the DVD is only in the Super Deluxe or also in the Deluxe or what its all about, I'm afraid.

that's all I have right now, I've been trying to find out more but no joy sadly.

FWIW, I absolutely cannot wait for this, its a masterpiece of an album that truly deserves the special treatment and I'm thrilled Mr.Scott is at the helm, rightly so -- and you can bet it won't have the DR sucked out of it with him doing the remaster!

 

Well I have just finished listening to exile right now and thought I would post my thoughts , and it sounds very nice indeed , thanks for the info.
Interestingly it seems that the mp3 download is the new remaster because it is very very loud.
I have the virgin disc also so I can post a picture of the waveform from my three sources if anyone is interested?

 

I'm glad you're enjoying the BDA it's disappointing the download uses the (horrible) remaster.. please do post waveforms when you have the time.

 

Versions of "happy"
This is the mp3 download which I presume is the latest remaster!
This is the same track From the blu ray of Grrrr.
Then the Virgin master of the same track.
And then the new blu ray audio.

 

Quite a big difference between all four versions . With the MP3 download(which I presume is the newest remaster since all the negative feedback that it got) being as hard on the eyes as it is on the ears

 

That's fantastic! Thank you SO much for doing this!

 

That Blu-ray sounds superb, any fans of The Stones and/or the album simply have to get the Blu-ray.

Thanks once again for the info.

 

That's good news on the Exile BD. I just might pull the trigger...

 

I don't think you'll regret it. Back when I got the BD last year, I was staggered at how good some stuff on it sounded. Shine A Light, really, I know I've been going on about it for months (!) but I've never heard it sound so good.

If all these HFPA Blu-ray's were as good as this, we'd be in clover.

 

Your welcome. No trouble at all. Thanks for recommending the blu ray to me. I would have passed otherwise.

 

Wasn't Exile on Main Street problematic with fluctuating sound levels? Seems to me rstamberg may have posted along with a few others.

 

there are other HFPA's that suffer from that (Bob Marley is particularly bad) but I don't recall it on the Exile, I'll check tonight.