DCC Archive Uncopyable CDs

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Paul L., Jan 1, 2002.

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  1. Paul L.

    Paul L. New Member Thread Starter

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    Here's an interesting page with lists of the new copy-protected CDs. I have only one of them, and just popped it in my computer. Couldn't get it to play, and none of my CDR making programs or editing programs would recognize it. The only way to copy it, I suppose, would be through analog outs in real time. Good thing I don't want to copy it.
    http://www.fatchucks.com/corruptcds/corrupt.html

    Anyway, I had no idea so many titles had already come out with this Macrovision stuff on it.
     
  2. Krink

    Krink Forum Resident

    Isn't it great to know, the industry doesn't care that these "corrupt CD's" don't play in most highend cd players! So if I go out and buy one of these cd's, which are not marked with a warning or statement to the fact it can't be copied...I'm screwed. Just one more case of evidence the record companies don't care about sound quality!!!
     
  3. Highway Star

    Highway Star New Member

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    Wow, what marketing genius came up with this brainstorm? Heck, they should even raise the prices on them, people will be flocking to the stores in droves to buy them. I'm going to hold off on getting that last Monkee CD until it gets done up with this technological wizardry. :rolleyes:
     
  4. Dave

    Dave Esoteric Audio Research Specialist™

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    What!! You mean I have to wait now to build my Madonna collection. ;)
     
  5. pigmode

    pigmode Active Member

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    Paul L, which burnig/extracting apps did you try? I just did an mp3 search and the songs from the three that I checked are all available.
     
  6. petzi

    petzi Forum Resident

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    In Germany, the law as of today is that everything has a 2 year warranty against defects (used to be 6 months). And a copy protected CD is considered defective, because it won´t play on certain players. So you can return it for either a full refund, or replacement (sellers choice). Since the replacement is undoubtedly defective, too, it has become popular to buy these CDs, copy them with special copy programs or in real time, then return them. So the music industry is shooting itself in the foot with this stupid copy protection.

    Bottom line: A "copy protected" CD is defective, it does not adhere to CD standards, and the customer is not aware of it, not even if there is some fine print on the cover or even a sticker. A CD is a CD is a CD, and if it doesn´t play on any non-defective CD playback device (that includes the CD drive in your computer) then it is flawed, and if you can´t return a flawed product, then something is wrong with consumer protection in your country.

    Sorry for the rant...
     
  7. Paul L.

    Paul L. New Member Thread Starter

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    Mr. Pig,

    I tried Sopranos "Peppers & Eggs," a 2-disc set, which I think is the same thing that is on the corrupt CD list as Sopranos Soundtrack Vol 2. Anyway, what is interesting is the second disc won't copy, but the first disc has no trouble. So it would seem that whatever they did to it to make it unreadable was done to only half of it.

    CDRWin comes up with an error and won't begin to extract, won't even say how many tracks are on it. EAC won't recognize it. SoundForge and CoolEdit Pro won't recognize it.
     
  8. Sckott

    Sckott Hand Tighten Only.

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    A few Cds on that list, including Tori Amos, I've been able to copy with no problem. Ya sure all of you aren't suffering from a very bad case of Jedi Mind Trick? ;)
     
  9. Paul L.

    Paul L. New Member Thread Starter

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    Sckott,
    On this guy's webpage, in the FAQ section, he says that it seems that the corrupt CDs are made in batches, but not for the whole run. So maybe there are 50000 Invincible CDs made that have no copyguard, and then they run 50000 with it. I'm just making up these numbers for illustration--the companies aren't divulging the quantities or even the titles affected.
     
  10. Sckott

    Sckott Hand Tighten Only.

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    Thanks Paul. This makes NO sense at all. If anything, it'll discourage people from buying Cds MORE. I guess I'm safe anyways if I buy Art Blakey and Miles Davis Cds for the next few years as the music business buys a clue, if they can afford it by then.
     
  11. Douglas

    Douglas New Member

    Thanks for the link to Fat Chuck's, Paul. I plan to call the FTC following his step by step directions which he kindly included. You know there will be a crack for just about every thing they'll do to "protect" their product, but I agree that we shouldn't have to resort to using a crack to duplicate a CD we legitimately paid for. I bought a copy of Pete Yorn's Musicforthemorningafter, which was on the list. I just tried to dupe it to see if it would work. It doesn't. This is going to backfire on the RIAA.
     
  12. Doug Hess Jr.

    Doug Hess Jr. Senior Member

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    Will any of them read with MusicMatch?
     
  13. Joel Cairo

    Joel Cairo Video Gort / Paiute Warrior Staff

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    I ran across someone complaining about this subject on another board or NG a month or two back, so pardon me for repeating this info second-hand... the consensus of the group, as I recall, was that the program of choice to copy these discs is Audio Grabber. I think the latest version is 1.8

    I would stress that I'm just reporting this from memory, and (although I do happen to own a registered copy of Audio Grabber) since I haven't bought a new CD recently, I haven't experimented with this myself.

    Just passing along some info.

    -Kevin
     
  14. Paul L.

    Paul L. New Member Thread Starter

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    Thanks, Kevin. Unfortunately AudioGrabber won't read my 2nd disc of Sopranos either. I'm wondering if there's something else screwing it up. It looks perfect, and it plays in CD players perfectly, though.

    AudioGrabber looks like a nice program, nevertheless.
     
  15. Sckott

    Sckott Hand Tighten Only.

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    Getting a software ripper won't work, if the disc is slathered with Macrovision. However, there will be a "crack" though software that can disable the Macrovision and strip the code from the stream as well. That will be soon, I guarantee via yet another way of extracting the audio.
     
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