What do you folks mean by "needle-drop"??

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by smokeverbs, Aug 31, 2006.

  1. smokeverbs

    smokeverbs Well-Known Member

    Detroit, MI, USA
    I've been reading a lot of posts, especially in the archives, and people are talking about doing Needle-drops ... It almost seems interchangable with "I played a record" but not entirely. I'm sure this is a stupid question, but please, someone explain?
  2. XMIAudioTech

    XMIAudioTech New Member

    Petaluma, CA
    'Needle Dropping' refers to making a digital recording (usually destined for a CD-R) of a vinyl record. nothing more.

  3. smokeverbs

    smokeverbs Well-Known Member

    Detroit, MI, USA
    thanks. I do that a lot, but it just seems a very pretentious way of saying so.
  4. Grant

    Grant A Musical Free-Spirit

    United States
    More pretentious than saying "vinyl-to-digital transfer?
  5. Driver 8

    Driver 8 Forum Resident

    I always took the term to refer to those moments "when I'm rushing on my run," as Lou Reed so memorably put it. :p
  6. lobo

    lobo Music has always been a matter of Energy to me...


    No problemo, we are very pretentious people here at the forum.
  7. smokeverbs

    smokeverbs Well-Known Member

    Detroit, MI, USA
    No offense meant!
  8. Drifter

    Drifter Auto-Tune: ruining songs for 16 years!

    Vancouver, BC, CA
    Not to be confused with the needle exchange program.
  9. Joe Koz

    Joe Koz Prodigal Bone Brotherâ„¢

    Actually the term 'Needle drop' is an old record comany saying.

    Meaning that a title that they were puting out wasn't sourced from tape. Many singles that were picked up by the larger record companys were sourced from the original vinyl 45's. The master tapes were long gone.

    "Hanky Panky" by Tommy James and the Shondells is a needle drop. Another words all the production tapes that are out there, were sourced from the original 45.
  10. RobertKaneda

    RobertKaneda New Member

    Paris, France
    If there is a less pretentious and, more importantly, equally or more concise term that you would prefer, you are welcome to offer it.
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  11. flashdaily

    flashdaily Active Member

    I agree. You wouldn't actually "drop" a needle on a record, would you? How about "needle placement" instead? I've been meaning to comment on this "needle drop" term that everybody seems so enamored with, but I'm glad somebody beat me to it because I take enough heat as it is.
  12. flashdaily

    flashdaily Active Member

    You are indeed.
  13. william shears

    william shears Active Member

    new zealand
    So what's your non-pretentious description for 'doing that'?
  14. Joe Koz

    Joe Koz Prodigal Bone Brotherâ„¢

    The needle drops on to the record. Why do you guys have a problem with this?
    Its a 40 to 50 year old term. I isn't like it was made up here and used here only!

  15. John B Good

    John B Good Forum Hall Of Fame

    NS, Canada
    I couldn't get much out of Neko Cases' THE NEEDLE HAS LANDED song.
  16. John Cantrell

    John Cantrell New Member

    Outta here
    Hmmm...maybe you should try a needle drop :D
  17. lobo

    lobo Music has always been a matter of Energy to me...

    I wasn't offended :)
  18. lobo

    lobo Music has always been a matter of Energy to me...

    No wonder that you take "enough heat as it is"... Coffee wasn't good this morning? :sigh:
  19. ChristianL

    ChristianL Well-Known Member

    Berlin, Germany
    Man: Yesterday, I made a needle-drop from my Double Wally!
    Friend: :shrug:
  20. Steve Hoffman

    Steve Hoffman Audiophile Music Mastering Your Host

    The term "needle drop" was first coined in 1949 during the first rush of transfers of lacquer and 78 rpm records to the new long playing 33 1/3 RPM format.

    Take it up with PETER GOLDMARK (or his estate) if you have a problem. :wave:
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  21. TOCJ-4091

    TOCJ-4091 New Member

    Arlington, VA
    Yeah, vinyl burn.
  22. Parlourphone

    Parlourphone New Member

    London, UK
    Until I saw the term on here I just thought of it as "copying a record to CD", but there we are.

    Can the term be extended to digital copies made of cassettes? As this is something I do far more than copy vinyl, and I've managed to get very good results cleaning and 'restoring' cassettes. However, the term "headdrop" doesn't sound, feel or look right.
  23. Bob Lovely

    Bob Lovely Super Gort Staff

    I prefer the term "vinyl transfer". When I make a CD-R copy of a reel tape, I call it a "tape transfer".

  24. johmbolaya

    johmbolaya Active Member

    Pacific Northwest
    It goes back to one method of listening to music, and that is to drop the needle on the record. Placing the stylus on the record. The record needle.

    Therefore in a digital manner to "needle drop" is to record what you would hear from the record, and preserving it as a WAV file to edit and create as a CD and/or a digital file of your choice.
  25. Solaris

    Solaris a bullet in flight

    New Orleans, LA
    It's an expedient way of referring to the process, which often requires explaining to people who aren't familiar with it, just like any technical language. I don't find it pretentious at all. I do a lot of 'em, and as a descriptive term it works for me. "Vinyl transfer" is pretty good too. You can call it what you like. You're still going to have to explain it to people who don't have any clue what you're talking about.


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