What does Steve Hoffman think of the new Beatles Sgt. Pepper remix?

Were going to to on about something, and on and on. LOL

 

I don't mind the new mix. Great in the car or in the back yard two places that I find the George Martin Stereo mixes a little too separated due to my orientation to the speakers. I don't listen to music very loud so the bringing forward of things in the mix tends to work for me.
I do enjoy the Steven Wilson remixes more with the exception of Brave which brings the voice and bass forward but even at low volume in a distracting way in a few areas. There are some parts of his mix that are great however and look forward to him doing a few more.
If I buy a remix I want it to be different like the mono and stereo version of the White Album. Otherwise add clarity to a mix like Steven Wilson did with Jethro Tull and Yes. To me this new mix of St Pepper does a bit of both.

 

2017 SPLHCB remix us the kind of mix you could blast at a block party or backyard barbecue.

 

I’ve said here many times knowing how loud one listens to music as their eqpt profile.

FWIW, I generally listen to music fairly loud and I can’t get through the new mix in it’s entirety.

 

This is Brickwalling 101.

 

Actually, if it were only about people respectfully saying that they personally don't care for the new remix and wish it had been approached differently, then that would be perfectly okay. And these threads, unlike me, would be much more succinct.

But it's always a 1001 other reasons frequently cited as to why the remix is "garbage" - it ruins the original psych feel, it ruins the elements of the original stereo, it ruins the elements of the original mono, it is not what the band intended, it didn't need "fixing" to begin with, now we are "stuck" with this mix as a default and not the originals, and on and on, and none of those have anything to do why the remix was even made. What's wrong with just respectfully saying "I really like this" or "I can respect why others like it but I don't".

 

Of course, there's nothing wrong with giving reasons why someone may or may not like it. That makes for a discussion forum rather than a poll.

 

Imagine John Lennon with no possessions.

 

Oh, thanks. I must be in the wrong place.

I was looking for Forum Posting 101.

 

I have to blame Giles. Again. Early on talking about the Beatles music sounding old and, over and over again, showing disdain by using the phrase the Socks and Sandals Brigade. He brought up factors such as mono...modernized...young people...etc. He defined and framed the discussion from the very beginning. Some like it for certain reasons and some don't for certain reasons. No one should be surprised or overly offended.

 

Absolutely. That would be welcomed. As mentioned, it's giving reasons that have nothing to do with why the remix was even made that cause the bewilderment.

 

Yes, but even if a comment doesn't factor that at all...it's still legitimate to have a certain opinion about any intended or...unintended sound consequence that has resulted.

 

Yes, there would be no issues with that.

 

How involved Giles is...or is not...involved in any possible 2018 White Album project will be, to some degree, a reflection of Apple's assessment of who was or was not pleased with the Peppers remix and if that's the audience they want to target in 2018. Unless they offer a mixed bag White Album duplex product...trying to please everyone and knowing some Beatles fans will buy ANYTHING Beatles. I don't want to ban remixes, but am offering an opinion that is not bound by anybody's convenient strict rules about what I can opine about...

 

Very well stated. And a critically important TRUTH...communicated powerfully and quite persuasively by your timely and on the mark post. Nailed it.

 

Forcing the kids to listen because you're driving doesn't count.

I also have three kids and they think the old man is out of his mind.

 

Steve, what do you think of the new mastering of the original mono mix vs. the 2009 mastering on the mono box? DR numbers are very different, but supposedly that's due to different EQ not compression.

 

That said Steve, do you like the 2009 mono box? I do, and find it fairly flat... YAY!!!

 

Same here.

Is anyone else happy the 65 stereo mixes of “Help!” and “Rubber Soul” are unmastered in the mono box rather than compressed with jacked up low end in the stereo box?

 

What is “brickwalled”?

Is the music in the car from radio?

I’m curious as to the difference of the two musics— Could someone give me an example? I’d like to try w my kids


I must be really old.

 

Dynamically compressed to the point where the soundwaves of every song is maxxed out from beginning to end, sausage-shaped - or like a brick wall. Almost all CDs from 1998 onwards have this sonic blight that ruins the music on them, usually applied during mastering, but also done during mixes sometimes, which means the blight cannot be undone later by remastering.