What is the difference between REVERB and ECHO?

I'd have to give it a listen to really know.

While we're talking about these variations, how about the pre echo on Whole Lotta Love. That's a pretty cool trick.

 

I know that some consider vibrato & tremolo the same, but I always thought that vibrato was pitch modulation, and tremolo is amplitude modulation. Ah, hair-splitting...

 

According to this site, it was at Liberty: http://www.eddiecochran.info/Sessions/V.htm

Don't like the song?

 

Somethin' Else is a much better song.

But I still like Balcony.

 

Actually I've heard both tremelo and vibrato called the same thing. Some guitars claim to have a tremelo bar though I'd call that vibrato.

To me tremelo is like what you find on a Fender amplifier and like what KevinP mentions.

 

Yeah. Vibrato is pitch fluctuations and tremolo is volume fluctuations.

 

Echo and reverb both have repercussions.

 

Were/are echo and reverb generally recorded on a separate track apart from the main vocals or were they recorded with the vocals onto the same track?

 

Sometimes it is advantageous to record reverb live. I've not heard or a separate track for reverb only but of course there are no rules. Usually reverbs are added during the mix process. Often there are multiple types of reverbs used on a song. Often reverb is used for live monitoring but it is not necessarily what the final reverb will be.

Once again, therer are no real rules.

edit: Whoops, looks like I said pretty much what Steve said.

 

Yeah, well, everything we do does.

 

Just curious:

How much of today's music actually uses true room reverb or echo as opposed to plug-ins or hardware (rack units).

I'll assume very little?

Also-I get the impression that the "classic" studios don't have as much cache as they did before in recording. You don't hear about a band going into "x" studio, only about the technology that was used to create the sounds.

 

I never understood it, but I always figured that

John on Lucy in the Sky w/Diamonds = reverb
George on Everybody's Trying to be my Baby = echo.

Mariah on virtually all her recordings = lots and lots of echo.

 

To have echo on a separate track that is generated live while recording you would have to doing it electronically right? If you recorded a singer in an echo chamber you couldn't have a dry track and a track with echo, could you?

 

Sure you could. Why couldn't you record dry on one track and put any type of echo or reverb on another track?

Not usually done, but it surely could be done.

edit: After rereading your post, I see you may have inferred putting the singer physically in the actual chamber. In that case you could not separate the echo, but once again that is not usually done.

 

But if the echo is coming from the room the singer is standing in, there wouldn't be any dry sound to capture, would there? Just the sound of the singer in the echo chamber

 

Yes, I edited my post after rereading yours.

The best you could do is close mic the singer who was in the chamber with a tight pattern mic. You'd still have reverb but much less than if you just stuck him in the chamber and used the normal chamber mics.

 

Ok, I get it now. Thanks!

 

Not many examples I can think of where a singer was physically standing in an echo chamber though.

 

How else would you make use of the chamber?

 

Normally, the sound from the room where the recording is taking place is sent to a speaker IN the chamber. The sound from the chamber is then picked up by another microphone and sent back to the mixing console to be fed into the (dry) mix.
In the old days of 3 or 4 track recording it would have been necessary to mix it right on to one of the tracks along with the dry sound. Because there were no tracks to waste. I don't know why, with say, 16 track, the echo send can't just be put on a separate track.