Which Sgt.Pepper pressings have the infamous run-out groove?

it clearly couldnt have been the same pressing if one had it and one did not. just saying.

 

I'm pretty sure I have an "american" version that has it.

Around 79 or 80, maybe even a few years later, I bought a picture disc
version of Sgt. Pepper. I seem to remember it being packaged in a
plastic "bag." I bought it in a Sears store in the US. If it was an import,
that would be very unusual because Sears was not a very serious music
retail outlet.

It wasn't really clear what label it was on - because there wasn't
much information - just a picture disc in a transparent sleeve.

I remember kind of being shocked to hear the ending on the album
when I played the thing. For that reason, I want to say that I
purchased the thing after the US version of Rarities hit the streets
(which I believe was sometime in 1980).


I never thought much about the pressing but one time I saw it
mentioned in a discography and it made a comment about how
it included the ending as was released in the UK and I think it
also said that it was indeed a US product.

I remember the picture disc craze that started around 1978
and I avoided most of the discs because I was worried about
the quality of the sound. It was a fad that eventually died.

This link seems to confirm that it was a Capitol product
and a Capitol catalog number.

http://www.angelfire.com/rock/picturediscs/beatles_sgt_pepper.html


I'm guessing it was released as an attempt to steal some of the
"thunder" that was expected to accompany the Bee Gees film.

The picture disc mentioned here is NOT the same thing I purchased.

http://www.jpgr.co.uk/pcs7027.html

It shows a disc kind of sitting in a cardboard thing that completed
the front sleeve. Mine was just in a transparent piece of plastic.

 

I can't find any specific information about MY album on the internet
but it looks like the 1978 Capitol version came in a cardboard sleeve
that I don't have. I remember seeing those and I think it was the
cardboard sleeve that turned me off.

I'm pretty sure that I purchased mine in the translucent plastic
"bag" when it was spotted sitting there with some others.

It's possible someone did an aftermarket modification to the packaging
but they did it for more than my album.

The bag actually has plastic snaps at the top if anyone is curious.

I don't believe it was also shrink wrapped.

I know I didn't buy mine in 1978 - my guess is 1981.


I'm really confused as to where it may have been manufactured.

But I still think I read the 1978 Capitol picture disc had the inner
groove (and the tone). Perhaps maybe even pressed from a
master in a different country (?)

Digging a little further, it appears that I purchased a
German picture disc

I think this link shows the disc in a bag.

http://www.beatlesvinyl.com/germany/index3.html

Im fairly certain both sides of the disc were almost identical
(the US version supposedly has a big drum on one side)

 

Check the deadwax. Stamped #s = UK, handwritten=US, or even stamped 'mastered by capitol' may be on there.
Report back....

 

You have the German one.

 

Nope, not my NZ copy. Got a huge shock when nothing happened after the last seconds of 'A Day In The Life'. Bastards!

By the way, does anyone know of any non-UK (& non-Jap) mono copies that have the run-out gibberish? Looking to avoid expensive - to NZ - copies from the UK & Japan that come up on TradeMe or E-bay.

 

Jim, you must have picked up a 70s NZ cut copy. Check the deadwax, should be handwritten and initialed 'RH'. The tone and gibberish is on there. Problem was that the NZ recut put the gibberish so far at the end that many automatic TTs lift the tonearm before it hits it!
All NZ Sgt Peppers have the tone and gibberish, from the original UK stamper pressings through to the early 80s. They even generated the correct tone as requested by head office in Middlesex using the Abbey Rd calibrated cutting equipment down in Wellington.
So check again. Unless you have some weird unknown NZ pressing

 

I agree, it doesn't make sense.

So, guys - especially those of you with German pressings - please help me solve the mystery. Why do other copies of the German Apple 1 C 072-04 177 have the repeating gibberish in the run-out groove while mine doesn't? Here is my matrix info:

Side One: 04177-A1 (machine printed). Nothing else.

Side Two: 04177-B1 (machine printed). Nothing else.

If you have the 1 C 072-04 177 pressing, please could you share your matrix info?

 

My Australian mono Pepper has the gibberish (no surprise since it was pressed with UK 1/1 stampers).

 

just recieved my Israeli -1/-1 Y&B needledropping... perhaps a video as well.

 

It's also on the "Pepper" in my (circa 1981) U.K. BC 13 box!

 

as a thanks to those who helped me and supplied tons of valuable info, not only to me, but to others as well, i created a video clip of the inner groove being played
the record is the -1/-1 cut, unbanded, on a yellow and black parlophone. this is the Israeli pressing i saw on ebay and set my heart on. i love it and it has brought me so much joy. all thanks to you guys for helping me choose it =)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-NTbWx42K4

 

There are a lot of parallels between your experience and my own.

Sometime between 1982 and 1984 I found my Sgt. Pepper picture disc in a bargain bin at a Kroger grocery store in Arlington, Texas. I was housed in a rounded mylar inner sleeve that was scotch-taped closed. It was being sold for five or six dollars. I found this odd, but I bought it anyway. I think it may have had a "Made In England" sticker on it, but it no longer does.

When I finished listening to it, I was surprised by the strange noises prior to the tone arm going up, but I knew what it was immediately.

An easy way to tell if you have a US version of the picture disc is that it has a close-up of the drum on the second side rather than the full cover. The UK version has the same cover image on both sides with a small "Side One" and "Side Two" at the top of the respective sides in a Times Roman font. Mine is the latter.

The matrix reads as follows:

PHO 7027 A FOR GEORGE AND MABEL
PHO 7027 B1 ANOTHER WINNER FROM ERNIE

The "1" after the "B" could be an "I" or a stray mark.

Like Sears, Kroger is not a serious retail outlet, either. Nevertheless, that's where I got it. I, also, recall seeing a copy of Deep Purple In Concert in the same bargain bin, although I did not buy it (but should have). That had not been released in the US until 2001 and has never been released here on vinyl. I, also, bought UK cassettes of Truimph's Progressions Of Power and Judas Priest's Point Of Entry at that store, as well.

I can only surmise that companies used to send UK overstock over to the States and general retailers would stock that merchandise because it was cheaper to obtain than going through the same channels that the major music outlets did.

I, also, recall seeing Australian AC/DC albums in Sears stores in the early 80s, as well. So, it is very possible that you have a British Sgt. Pepper picture disc.

I do find it interesting that someone else got their copy of that picture disc in almost the same manner that I did.

 

Any thoughts/comments on the video? I love feedback.

 

I've posted my own video on this - my handle is 'BizMarkUK'.

I feature XEX-638-1/-1G (UK Mono) and also YEX-638-6-1-2-7 (UK Stereo). The latter I think is different to any of the configurations previously pointed to.

 

Oh yes, the link is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1gov1oSV-0 (can't modify my post for some reason)

 

Nice video, that bad loop would surely bug me!

 

sloppy grooving!

 

May what is the loop repeating part like? Is it the whole phrase "Never could see any other way?" as on the CD? Or otherwise? I just want to find out which lacquer has a perfect Inner Groove.
Many other lacquers have Inner Groove which is a mess: either the beginning or the end of the sequence are missing. For instance, I have a copy from the 1st lacquer YEX 638-1 and in the loop there's only a part of the phrase "...could see any other way..... could see any other way....could see any other way...." the beginning of the phrase is just eaten up.

 

Infamous? I love that runout groove!

 

My single box Parlophone (YEX 638-2) has half the run-out groove. It repeats after "I never", but no 15 khz sound.

 

No whistle? You kidding! The whistle has to be in the concentric before the loop.

 

The original "Their Satanic Majesties Request" IS banded (may be it's not in the Rollings' style to leave records unbanded). Even the hidden coda of the song "Sing this all together(see what happens)" is cut as a separate track, and so is the intro of "She's A Rainbow". The original "From Genesis To Revelation" is not banded. How about the original "Jesus Christ Superstar" and "Dark Side Of The Moon"?

 

Is the looping of the gibberish identical to that on the 1987 CD (if you heard the CD)? Or different?

 

You can clearly hear 'Epstein' on the 1987 one.