Who Killed Rosie Larsen? (AMC Series "The Killing")

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  1. Lonson

    Lonson I'm in the kitchen with the Tombstone Blues

    Think how frustrating it must be for investigators!
     
  2. woody

    woody Forum Resident

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    I agree.
     
  3. hutlock

    hutlock Forever Breathing

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    Amen, Bender. :thumbsup:
     
  4. hutlock

    hutlock Forever Breathing

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    Geez yes, this.

    Remember back when NYPD Blue was on the air, and everyone was saying how REAL it was?! Yeah, right. Compared to this, that was science fiction.
     
  5. Strummergas

    Strummergas Senior Member

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    I agree that last night was pretty pointless in that this show is supposed to be a mini-series. I feel that a mini-series shouldn't be wasting its time by devoting a whole 60 minute episode to character developement.
     
  6. Bender Rodriguez

    Bender Rodriguez RIP Exene, best dog ever. 2005-2016

    I wasn't aware this was a "mini-series," I thought it was a series that follows a murder investigation day-by-day until its conclusion, however long that takes. Maybe you have information that I don't.

    Again, this isn't formulaic TV, it is something different and unique. If you feel character development is time wasted, perhaps you should be watching more traditional programming.
     
  7. kwadguy

    kwadguy Senior Member

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    I thought last night's show was brilliant. Yes, it didn't advance the investigation AT ALL. But it was an extremely good character study. I thought that was indie film quality work.

    I expect it will split people right down the middle. Those who are just waiting to wrap up the story will dislike it. But I thought it was fantastic.
     
  8. Lonson

    Lonson I'm in the kitchen with the Tombstone Blues

    Finally watched last night's episode. I enjoyed the break in focus. I liked the opportunity to understand Holder a bit better. And the chance to see he and Linden work together in a different way.
     
  9. Jack

    Jack Senior Member

    I bailed at episode 6. Boring.


    QUOTE=ed hughes;6621237]Another useless subplot on last nights show.:wtf: I should have bailed on this show weeks ago.:realmad:[/QUOTE]
     
  10. R. Totale

    R. Totale The Voice of Reason

    I'm in until the end since I've already come this far. I don't like or care in the least about any of the characters, so this week was all wheel spinning for me. I don't know who killed Rosie Larsen. The only thing I'm sure of (judging strictly from the quality of the writing so far) is that when we do find out the goldarn sun is going to come out over Seattle.

    The writers should have watched Damages to see how to pace and reveal a season-long, multiple character story.
     
  11. sberger

    sberger Dream Baby Dream

    Great series. Not your standard cop series which suits me just fine.
     
  12. Strummergas

    Strummergas Senior Member

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    Sorry, mini-series was not the correct use of words. It's a full season worth of programming, but I was under the impression that this was originally intended as a one-off series as opposed to an on-going series like Breaking Bad or Mad Men. If this is indeed a "one and done" type of series, then I do feel it's a waste of the viewer's time to devote a whole 60 minute episode to develop characters that are going to be gone in two more episodes. That's not to say I don't want ANY character development. It's just that perhaps this sort of thing could be done little by little in each episode instead of all in one sitting.
     
  13. hutlock

    hutlock Forever Breathing

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    But it also fits part of the structure of the show, which is showing one day at a time during the investigation. Sorry, there are days like that. It's reality. Sometimes nothing happens. They were waiting on the warrant all day, and they had to kill some time, so this is what they did. It fits the model they've established, totally. It came here because it came here, just like in real life.
     
  14. sberger

    sberger Dream Baby Dream

    :righton:
     
  15. El Bacho

    El Bacho Forum Resident

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    It was a good episode, the best in a long time.
    It was artificial. Yes, there are days, and there are days. But you can't compare the artificial start point of the episode, which was some kind of deliberate parenthesis, with what happens (or not) in a show such as "The Wire" that really focused for a long time on the frustrations or the dead-ends in an investigation and could integrate them in the whole story with relevance.

    The best thing is that it didn't try to fit in the increasingly convoluted and not involving overall plot of the show, it just gave the actors an opportunity to express something. I would have liked a few more analogies between the situation of the teenage kid and Rosie Larsen but these are minor quibbles. The relationship between the two cops felt genuine.

    Cheap effect of the week: The murdered kid found at the right time. Don't tell me it's realistic or that it happens every day or every month in Seattle.
    "Cops are stoopid" moment of the week: So, Rosie did use an ATM at the casino. Wasn't her body found near her father's credit card in the first episode? Could the cops have checked activities with the card during the weekend she was killed?
     
  16. R. Totale

    R. Totale The Voice of Reason

    I thought that was unstated in glittery red letters 12 feet high. Blinking.

    Who says it's daddy's card at the casino?
     
  17. shokhead

    shokhead Head shok and you still don't what it is. HA!

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    Maybe she had a sugar daddy?
     
  18. Lonson

    Lonson I'm in the kitchen with the Tombstone Blues

    Well, is it him or not? I liked the triple reveal!
     
  19. kwadguy

    kwadguy Senior Member

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    I doubt it's him. Either it's a setup or else he has a thing for young girls, but he isn't the killer.

    It's still possible it's his female aid/lover. She'd have motive (pissed about his dalliances) and access (to his email, etc.)

    Alternatively, if they want to set up a second season, it could be him, but they ultimately can't prove it, and the next season pits the newly elected (and guilty) politician against the good guys.
     
  20. GentleSenator

    GentleSenator what if

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    Alright, the show is putting me to sleep now. I honestly don't care who the killer is--I'm just not feeling any suspense or tension. The "skull" intro to this week's show was cheap and silly... although not as stupid as the "bacon maple donut" part in the previous week's episode where they couldn't even be bothered to actually use a bacon maple donut.
     
  21. kwadguy

    kwadguy Senior Member

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    ??? Neither of those things bothered me at all. The skull wasn't a red herring. It was the end of the development project. And how could you tell it wasn't a bacon maple donut? I have no idea what one looks like, so it wasn't an issue. But even if I did know what one looked like, and even if that didn't look like one, that was merely a few insignificant seconds in the show. Who cares?
     
  22. hutlock

    hutlock Forever Breathing

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    Already been renewed for a second season, just FYI... so you might be onto something there.
     
  23. hutlock

    hutlock Forever Breathing

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    I'm with you on the skull thing.

    The "maple bacon donut," however, was VERY clearly not what she was eating. It appeared to be just a plain old cake donut, in fact. It's like what I find the MOST ANNOYING THING ON EARTH: when people in a movie or TV show go order a "coffee" and they walk around with what are CLEARLY empty cups, waving them around and gesticulating with no regards to splashing scalding hot coffee on themselves or others, nor being good enough "actors" to pretend the thing actually has something in it, let alone something HOT. IT DRIVES ME NUTS. I mean COME ON -- can't some propmaster somewhere at least fill the things with BROWN WATER or something?!? AAAARGH!

    /rant.
     
  24. kwadguy

    kwadguy Senior Member

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    So what does a bacon maple donut look like?!! :)

    I agree it looked like a plain old cake donut. But I thought maybe a maple bacon donut was just a cake donut with some maple/bacon flavor mixed in or something.

    P.S. Confirmed: The show has been renewed for a second season. That announcement just came down the pike today.
     
  25. hutlock

    hutlock Forever Breathing

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    Like this:

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    :winkgrin:
     
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