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5 Zappa Titles on HDtracks.

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by I333I, Mar 26, 2021.

  1. I333I

    I333I Forum Resident Thread Starter

    Location:
    Ventura
    Joe’s Garage, Zoot Allures, Apostrophe, Shiek Yerbouti and Chungas Revenge all in hi-Rez.
    I’d love to learn a bit more about the transfers before I plunk another $25 on Apostrophe. Anyone have any info?
     
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  2. rlp

    rlp Forum Resident

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    North Carolina
    I just got Weasels Ripped My Flesh ...
     
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  3. I333I

    I333I Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    Would you be so kind as to give a review at your convenience?
     
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  4. rlp

    rlp Forum Resident

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    North Carolina
    I will gladly do so ... I will pop it on the big rig in the morning with a steaming hot cuppa joe.
     
  5. Instant Dharma

    Instant Dharma Get Ry Cooder to sing my eulogy

    The big kicker is does the first track include the “Charles Ives” segment. If not its probably the same mix/master used for the 2012 UME issues.

    I can already see from the time of the cut thats what it probably is.
     
  6. Black Elk

    Black Elk Music Lover

    Location:
    Bay Area, U.S.A.
    These are likely derived from the 2012 DSD transfers, surely?

    Maybe Joe Travers (@Vaultmeister) will chime in?
     
  7. Veovis

    Veovis Forum Resident

    Location:
    Europe
    Anyone now in at what format the master tapes were transfered for the 2012:s? The CD booklets for the albums that were remastered suggest it was done in DSD, not hi-res PCM ("DSD signal path:"). If so it would have been even nicer with a DSD release of the albums. But maybe the files were converted to hi-res PCM before the remastering work began and these are simply the 2012 remasters but not dithered and downsampled to redbook format.

    A bit expensive, but I'll buy and try at least one of them this weekend.

    Is Universal still involved in the publishing? If so I really hope the hi-res files are not "watermarked".
     
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  8. danner

    danner Forum Resident

    Location:
    Birmingham, AL
    Oh crap. I’m going to buy these albums all over again, aren’t I?
     
  9. mmars982

    mmars982 Forum Resident

    Location:
    Pittsburgh, PA
    FYI the same titles are available at ProStudioMasters for a slightly deeper discount (25% instead of $20).

    These titles already sound very good on the 2012 CDs. I'll probably wait until they have some I don't already own. (Who am I kidding, I'll probably buy Apostrophe over the weekend.)
     
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  10. Zongadude

    Zongadude Music is the best

    Location:
    France
    There is also Weasels ripped my flesh.

    And the albums are also on Qobuz in 24/192 !!!
    (streaming and downloading)

    And you've got Digital Booklets with them.
    It is written the original analog Master Tapes were used. (It is the 2012 versions).
     
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  11. Veovis

    Veovis Forum Resident

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    Europe
    I bought Weasels and Joe's in 24/192. It's definitely the 2012 remasters in hi-res. I don't expect a night and day difference between the CD and hi-res, but will listen on these over the weekend. And knowing myself I'll probably buy the rest of the catalog (again) as well.:)
     
  12. folkfreak

    folkfreak Forum Resident

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    Germany
    If they are the 2012 masters they are fantastic. I only have the iTunes versions though.
     
  13. Black Elk

    Black Elk Music Lover

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    Bay Area, U.S.A.
    You're fooling yourself, you'll have to buy them twice because there are 24/96 and 24/192 versions! :laugh:
     
  14. sleepjar

    sleepjar Forum Resident

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    NJ
    On whatever it is they write it on up there.
     
  15. MikeManaic61

    MikeManaic61 Forum Resident

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    Virginia
    So what's the difference from these than the 2012 remasters?
     
  16. kiddo4

    kiddo4 Forum Resident

    Location:
    Israel
    Haven't listened to the whole album but from checking a few tracks it seem
    that Sheik Yerbouti sounds just like the 2012 CD.
     
  17. tlake6659

    tlake6659 Senior Member

    Location:
    NJ
    Higher resolution.
     
  18. JamieLang

    JamieLang Forum Resident

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    Nashville, TN
    Listening now on Amazon....they've been weirdly spotty--like they're in the process of updating--some songs are UHD, some are CD....which is frustrating because I wanted to listen to Joe's Garage end to end....instead I"ve just been clicking through the "hits" on all the albums, which seem to have gotten uploaded first?

    Seems like they're fairly loud masters. I sold all my Rykos in the 90s....so, I don't know what I have here to compare....I was into him heavily for a brief time as a teen. Nice to revisit. I've enjoyed Dweezil's ZPZ....what a band!
     
  19. motionoftheocean

    motionoftheocean Forum Resident

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    I got Joe's Garage and this is virtually identical to the 2012 and may even be slightly softer.
     
  20. JamieLang

    JamieLang Forum Resident

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    Nashville, TN
    You might be right. It's certainly fuller than I remember the Rykos being. But, you know--aural memory being closer to 20 seconds than 20 years, so.... ;)
     
  21. folkfreak

    folkfreak Forum Resident

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    Germany
    They sound fuller because they have a more natural frequency range than the bass shy Rykos
     
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  22. rlp

    rlp Forum Resident

    Location:
    North Carolina
    I bit the bullet and purchased the lot. I’ve only sampled ... Great Googly Moogly! These sound fuller, more detailed and sharper (not louder) ... than I expected. I’d say they are the Ume renderings. But I am beyond impressed by “apostrophe (‘)” thus far.
     
    Last edited: Mar 26, 2021
  23. fredgsanford

    fredgsanford Forum Resident

    Location:
    Toronto
    I can't wait to listen to these this weekend.
     
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  24. rlp

    rlp Forum Resident

    Location:
    North Carolina
    Just onto “Weasels Ripped ... “ now. Yes, these seem to me to be as rich and aurally flavorful as the Ume releases.
     
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  25. Veovis

    Veovis Forum Resident

    Location:
    Europe
    Yeah, the 24/192 of Joe's Garage sounds very much like the 2012 CD EQ wise but I like it quite a bit more. Running both the 2012 CD and hi-res through Foobar's DR meter shows the hi-res to have a bit more dynamic range, while the Weasels 2012 CD and hi-res are almost completely the same. In both cases the hi-res sounds better on my system, Joe's Garage so much better that I will probably have to buy the albums they release in this series all over again. But then Frank Zappa is my favorite artist of all time and I've always wished for the 2012 remasters to be released in hi-res, so.
     

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