50th Anniversary all things Beatles White Album

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by tinnox, Feb 8, 2018.

  1. alexpop

    alexpop Power pop + other bad habits....

    Yer Blues.
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  2. richierichie

    richierichie Forum Resident

    Incredible indeed.

    It appears that you are the only one who can make a caustic remark. I have now alleviated that problem for myself.
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  3. Kassonica

    Kassonica Forum Resident

  4. alexpop

    alexpop Power pop + other bad habits....

    Ringo on naked 2V cover " you could see the Times ". :)
  5. nikh33

    nikh33 Forum Resident

    Liverpool, England
    John was the one with the typewriter, George left all that writing for Derek Taylor to do, Ringo can't spell. So that means it's up to Paul.
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  6. alexpop

    alexpop Power pop + other bad habits....

    Yeah ..but after listening, you have to visit the dentist. :nyah:
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  7. johnny moondog 909

    johnny moondog 909 Beatles-Lennon & Classic rock fan

    No new sound clips, music video sheesh.

    All the Lennon clips are up for Imagine, sounds good, nothing new, no songs, mixes are new of course. Can't afford to get them both. I'm leaning towards White 50.

    More Beatles, More Beatles, must be programmed into my DNA .

    I'll tell you one thing the Lennon set does do, right there on Amazon, for $1.29 I can just buy the outtakes of my choice in mp3. For $10-15 bucks, I could probably satisfy my need, for must have outtakes.

    Of course, the Beatles won't offer an option like that, will they ???

    Why not ?
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  8. alexpop

    alexpop Power pop + other bad habits....

    Less than 4 weeks now.
    Fairly flying in>>>>
    This thread has been a roller coaster ride, Helter Skelter at times :).But a lot of fun. Thanks Tim !!!!!!!
    Last edited: Oct 12, 2018
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  9. voles

    voles Forum Lurker

    I thought the point of it was that it was pointless.
  10. voles

    voles Forum Lurker

    As a matter of interest how DO you post images. I have tried flickr URLs and whatnot to no avail. I am probably missing something obvious obviously.
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  11. Kassonica

    Kassonica Forum Resident

    Because they are the Beatles.
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  12. Arnold Grove

    Arnold Grove Senior Member

    100% true.
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  14. Arnold Grove

    Arnold Grove Senior Member

    Who needs Lewisohn when we have you to concisely tell the Beatles tale in less than 30 words ... ;)
  15. Arnold Grove

    Arnold Grove Senior Member

    May I recommend:

  16. bherbert

    bherbert Forum Resident

    South Africa
    The fact that he found the first pass too compressed is music to my ears. Maybe he is starting to understand the issues on the Sgt Pepper remix. It’s a pity that he didn’t reach this conclusion on the Sgt Pepper and 1 remixes. This is an encouraging development IMO.
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  17. So you didn’t read the track listing before your bought it ?
  18. A Saucerful of Scarlets

    A Saucerful of Scarlets Commenter Turned Viewer

    Why is it that both Back In the U.S.S.R. versions (2009 and remix) are too loud? Is it just me?
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  19. alexpop

    alexpop Power pop + other bad habits....

    What happened to the hypothetical in anticipation "Revolver 50th Anniversary " thread anyway ?
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  20. JimSpark

    JimSpark Forum Resident

    There's a way to post images that I recently discovered that doesn't require you to use Flickr or any other image-posting service:

    1. Right-click your mouse on the picture you want to post. Select "View Image Info."
    2. Copy the entire file name in the "Location" field.
    3. Returning to this thread, in the "Post Reply" box, click the Image icon.
    4. Paste the file name into the "Image URL" field, then click "Insert."

    I can't guaranteeing this will work for every single image you find, but it works for me. As an example, I posted the image from a few posts up using those steps:

  21. RoryMcBride

    RoryMcBride Forum Resident

    You're sitting too close to the speakers.
  22. A Saucerful of Scarlets

    A Saucerful of Scarlets Commenter Turned Viewer

    Hard not to with headphones :)
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  23. Yovra

    Yovra Forum Enthusiast

    I like Piggies, it fits nicely on side 2, giving that side an overall folksy/country/pastoral feel. Having said that, I think it’s George’s most lightweight track on the White Album (but he was starting to give Lennon and McCartney a run for their money!)
  24. johnny moondog 909

    johnny moondog 909 Beatles-Lennon & Classic rock fan

    With all due respect & candor. Giles Martin is a 50 year old guy. He's engineered & produced records for decades. He is a musician, trained, can read music, & has the ability to write orchestral scores, he has a lot of varied skills.

    If Sgt Pepper's 50th mix suffers from over compression added to both individual tracks & also the entire mix, it may or not be Giles Martin's fault or responsibility.

    Here's how I look at this thing with Giles Martin. Yes somebody like Tony Hicks in particular, or other skilled engineers, might've had better skills or grasp of that one issue, arguably.

    But the Beatles & Apple I believe, also considers the following. This is a long term appointment, not a one off job. Giles trained for decades as musician, engineer, orchestrator, producer. He does know Beatles diplomacy & record business etiquette & diplomacy since childhood. He was groomed for this, knowingly or not.

    Giles is on personal terms with Ringo & Paul, he certainly knows Olivia & Yoko personally also.

    This is a guy that abides by the rules & non disclosure agreements. He's comfortable in the role of employee, & semi curator of the Beatles Apple archives.

    Perhaps the torch was passed in 05-06, when Giles & dad Sir George & Tony Hicks, did the wildly successful & acclaimed Beatles LOVE album. Giles also has a hand in overseeing, updating the ongoing Beatles LOVE with Cirque Du Soilel.

    Martin has produced, engineered, curated, mixed, Scorsese's Harrison documentary, Harrison's early takes vol 1 album. Produced quite a few Paul McCartney tracks such as those on NEW in 2013. He also acted as the excecutive producer on NEW by overseeing the flow of songs from 4 different producers. Giles also oversaw the Beatles Rockband in 2008/9. He had a big hand in the audio for Ron Howard's Beatles-Eight Days A Week Film. In 2016, & Beatles 1+ in 2015.

    I don't know offhand if Giles has ever worked a Ringo album or for Yoko on a Lennon compilation. Yoko has a guy Rob Stevens who oversees all his stuff, except when Jack Douglas has done it. Ringo for years since Mark Hudson, has used a guy Bruce Sugar.

    My point is Giles Martin has gone through a long litmus test, where over compression on Sgt Pepper's is only about 1 of a hundred major points.

    They trust the guy, he's family, well trained & skilled, look at all those projects I listed, Rockband, LOVE, Living in Material World, Sgt Pepper, White album 50, 1+, Eight Days A Week.

    Maybe a Tony Hicks or Steve Wilson ( arguably ) has a better talent in very specific areas, regarding remixing a classic album.

    This is kind of a lifetime appointment, passed down father to son, after decades of apprentice training.

    If Tony Hicks is the guy responsible for making Beatles LOVE sound so fantastic, then I agree, he has the best ear, so far, for remixing the catalogue. But Giles is still pretty decent with O'kell, & that's what we got. They opted for one skilled guy, they trust to oversee the whole catalogue long term. Not to pick a new team each project.

    Maybe occasionally they'll continue to bring a Tony Hicks, or various engineers from Abbey Road, into help out, or do certain things under Giles Martin's management.

    I don't think a minority opinion among Beatles fans, engineers or audiophiles is going to dislodge Giles Martin.

    He is 50, maybe at 60 they'll force him into retirement, for some younger ears, to hear 4 6 8 & 12 K...

    I agree maybe someone else has a better ear. But overall he's their guy, he has a lot of varied skills in the engineering--production area, & he's trusted apparently.
  25. YpsiGypsy

    YpsiGypsy Forum Resident

    Michigan, USA

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