“A Star Is Born” Remake w/ Lady Gaga, Bradley Cooper To Lead

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  1. Monosterio

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    Count me as one of the underwhelmed. When movies like these are really well done, I’m typically reduced to a blubbering pool of tears by the end. This one, nothing.
     
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  2. Vidiot

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    I was surprised -- I really thought they would avoid these problems. I was telling another friend of mine in the bidness earlier today that there were parts of the film that were just sloppy and amateurish, which was very weird. And yet... there are also moments that are really emotional and affecting. So it's not entirely bad at all. As I said, the performances were very believable, and the technical stuff (dialogue, sound mix, music, VFX, cinematography, etc.) was world-class. But the story, editing, and pacing were all over the map, just weird and oft-putting at times.

    I had a few moments where I got a little misty-eyed, but not much more than that. The big scene at the award ceremonies was rough, a lotta "oh GOD no" stuff from me.
     
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  3. TonyCzar

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    OTOH, "Major embarrassment at the ingenue's big moment in front of the whole industry." goes back to Garland and Mason. (I forget about the Janet Gaynor one. Never saw Streisand's).

    In 2018, I think you gotta go a little bigger than "Drunk at the Awards" and "stage invasion" to elicit the same sense of outrage, embarrassment, and lack of decorum.
     
  4. audiomixer

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    You aren't getting any of the harassment I was getting earlier in the thread. Granted, I haven't seen the film, but I did listen to the soundtrack, which I didn't care for at all. I saw the trailer, which I didn't care for at all.
    And the hype was so strong, I just felt like I could wait to see it on the pay channels 6 months from now. That said, I don't even have the desire to do that.
    Thanks to your wonderful insight!
    FYI...I didn't like the Streisand version, either.
     
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  5. the pope ondine

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    I thinks its the same as mason, kris makes a drunken ass of himself....yeah probably wouldn't make the same impact now


    NOW you've gone to far!
     
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  6. Ghostworld

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    If I could go back in time, I'd stymie the career of Barbara Streisand just to thin out today's used record bins.
     
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  7. Vidiot

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    I loved the trailer and thought it captured a lot of excitement and also how much charisma the two leads had. But this is yet another case where if you've seen the trailer, you just about saw the best stuff from the film.

    The 1976 Streisand version is an absolute train wreck. The director, Frank Pierson, wrote a scathing article titled “My Battles with Barbra and Jon" that's a riot to read, even 40 years later. I think Babs is an incredibly talented woman, but this film is a stinkeroo on ice.
     
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  8. Oatsdad

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    She already did! :)

    Ruthless People (1986)
     
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  9. Oatsdad

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    Which is why you've gotten "harrassed". You've relentlessly crapped on a movie you've not seen.

    You didn't see the movie, I'm guessing you won't see the movie, and you don't want to see the movie.

    Watching a trailer and listening to some songs doesn't pay the piper...
     
  10. audiomixer

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    Check out what @Vidiot said about the movie & the trailer. And my responses to him.
     
  11. Jerrika

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    I wasn't a Lady Gaga fan before this movie, but it changed my mind about her. The songs were great. Gaga is the only celebrity I can think of who looks better with her natural hair and no makeup. She is actually quite good in American Horror Story too.
     
  12. Vidiot

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    I gotta say, she's a real talent. She didn't look great in the "no makeup" look, but she looked very real and I bought her as a character. And once they did make her up, she looked like a million bucks. "Star quality" is a very elusive thing, but she's really got it.
     
  13. chacha

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    The Streisand film is awful. I tried watching some of it again recently on TCM and it was like watching a car crash - hard to look away til I couldn’t take it no more. The worst of the Seventies.
    I’m going to see the Gaga version but not eagerly because I’m so tired of the story. Been done so many times I’m burnt out on it.
     
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  14. the pope ondine

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    Im officially triggered. the 1976 version is a fantastical 70's cheese parade of pure babs entertainment! and i will stand alone and say the songs are awesome (Streisand's. not Kris's. those are awful...or maybe awful on purpose because kris was supposed to be bad...I don't know)

     
  15. DML71

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    Harassment? More questioning why you still feel the need to comment on a film you don't want to see and a soundtrack you don't like...

    Vidiot's critique is based on his viewing and balanced with what he thought was good and bad.

    You my good sir just want to put the boot in. Watch it don't watch by all means, but repetition of the same view doesn't add anything to the party.
     
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  16. the pope ondine

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    the link is down but I think I remember reading it, juicy stuff! Robert Altman told a story of inviting Barbra/Jon to a viewing of Nashville at the time, after it was over they wanted to talk to him and never mentioned Nashville just asked him advice on how to make A Star..... they were kicked out
     
  17. Jack White

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    Barbra Streisand Archives | New West | My Battles With Barbra and Jon

    Try this link.
     
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  19. CaseyJames

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    I saw it this weekend and liked it. I was torn between this and First Man and ultimately went to ASIB because it had received some solid reviews from people I respect.

    I thought Gaga was very good, Cooper as well. Dice Clay stole every scene he was in. Loved that Lukas Nelson and the Promise of the Real were the backing band (which now makes me understand how Gaga ended up on their last record). And a Brandi Carlile cameo!

    My only real complaint was the pacing/timing was a bit wonky at parts but :shrug:

    Two scenes killed me: the dog/steak scene AND one of the Cooper/Elliot scenes.
     
  20. audiomixer

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    I'll be on my way...
     
  21. Jack White

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    Streisand has always been a neurotic and insecure egomaniac. From what I have read about Peters over the years I have the impression that just about everyone who ever met him thought he was an a__hole (to put it bluntly).
     
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  22. Ghostworld

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    Kris Kristofferson never exactly lit up the screen during his career, IMO, either.
     
  23. PhilBorder

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    As Vidiot said, technically the film is fine, quite accomplished. There are some nice scenes in the first half. The way Bradley Cooper looks at Lady Gaga really sells those early scenes. But the second half really meanders, as if the two main characters slowly grew more out of focus. A few of the songs are o.k., the rest sort of pedestrian imo. Though Ms. Gaga can certainly sing, the force of her performance simply calls more attention to the mediocrity of what she's singing. A more interesting approach (but probably wouldn't fly in the MeToo era) would be Jackson Maines on his way up and Ally on her way down.
     
  24. Alert

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    I think Kristofferson did a good job with his role in "Alice Doesn't Live Her Anymore," (1974, Dir. Scorsese).
     
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