APP "I robot" 2017 vinyl?

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by narf0815, Jan 22, 2019.

  1. narf0815

    narf0815 Member Thread Starter

    Location:
    Europe
    Hi there!
    Recently I found a 1977 West Germany Pressing of "I robot" and i love this album (no contact with APP so far!), but man... the LP is in bad shape! So i thought about getting a new one.
    I'd prefer mint condition and i found two different versions on amazon(.de):
    - Legacy Edition / MOV / 2013
    - "180g audiophile vinyl reissue" / 2017 (on discogs it says "The runout is identical to the 2011 Music On Vinyl release" (2011 reissue)

    As far as i have understood basically 2011 and 2017 release should be the same but Legacy Edition is a different pressing? I don't "need" the bonus tracks and i'd prefer the original album cover so if there's no significant difference between 2013 / 2017 i'd go with 2017 pressing.
    i found a thread on the 2013 release but i couldn't find any info on the 2017 pressing...

    Is there anyone who's got both LPs and could help me out?

    Cheers,
    Peter
     
  2. c-eling

    c-eling Somehow I See There Are Ships In Her Eyes...

    The MOV seems to get good reviews, I have their Turn and it's fine. (Actually prefer my US Ted over it) but for casual it's good.
    Peter if you have the cash, it seems the MFSL or the Classic is the way to go.
    I have an old US I Robot and enjoy it so I never went further :cheers:
     
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  3. narf0815

    narf0815 Member Thread Starter

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    "The MOV" means the 2011 release? i'm a little confused with the different releases 2011 / 2013 / 2017
    (is 2017 also MOV as "The runout is identical to the 2011 Music On Vinyl release"?)
    Or are they all the same?
    I have a few vinyls but i'd like to expand my collection so i'd prefer to get "more LPs for the amount given" :)
     
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  4. c-eling

    c-eling Somehow I See There Are Ships In Her Eyes...

    Geesh, good question. Wonder if Music on Vinyl received the remaster files for later
     
  5. I can't speak to the MOV or Legacy, but I'm confident in saying these weren't cut to vinyl from the original analogue tapes. I have both the 33 & 45 RPMs from MFSL, the Classic Records reissue and a UK Sparty 1012 A1/B1. A copy of the latter (UK) should be easy to find and inexpensive. My VG++ copy is excellent.
     
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  6. Neonbeam

    Neonbeam All Art Was Once Contemporary

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    I've got the old MFSL but MFSL and Classic are not cheap.

    Seriously, I think if you stick with UK, West German or US originals, you'd be hard pressed to find a poorly mastered "I Robot". It's also an album that can easily be found for 10€. And in my experience a lot of vintage APP vinyl was in the hands of connoisseurs and is not too hard to find in pristine condition. Definitely easier than Motorhead! :evil:
     
  7. c-eling

    c-eling Somehow I See There Are Ships In Her Eyes...

    What I'm thinking as well Neon. Funny, the only title I really don't run into at thrifts (through 84) is Vulture (which is odd, I remember this title in cut out bins)
    Too be honest, I prefer Alan on old compact disc except for Eve.
     
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  8. richbdd01

    richbdd01 Forum Resident

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    London
    APP is analogue productions vinyl?
     
  9. That's an ear-piercer on CD for sure and the vinyl ain't much better.
     
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  10. No. It stands for the Alan Parsons Project.
     
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  11. c-eling

    c-eling Somehow I See There Are Ships In Her Eyes...

    Think Wally did the best he could with this one... :laugh:
    No kidding, I actually checked the old Japan for US for pre-emphasis :sigh:
     
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  12. richbdd01

    richbdd01 Forum Resident

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    Ahh, I see ;)
     
  13. BrilliantBob

    BrilliantBob Use The VTF, Luke...

    Location:
    Romania
    Music On Vinyl does not use CD's as masters.

    The 2017 APP "I Robot" I own, is a good pressing. On the dead wax is marked: "87159 1A MOVLP 151". Bar Code: 889853754113.

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  14. narf0815

    narf0815 Member Thread Starter

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    did you have the possibility to compare this to one of "UK, West German or US originals"?
     
  15. BrilliantBob

    BrilliantBob Use The VTF, Luke...

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    Romania
    In my sig link I have there only the APP "Vulture Culture" and "Pyramid". These older pressings seems to have more punch and dynamic range like the actual reissue.
     
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  16. Floyd Crazy

    Floyd Crazy Forum Resident

    I have the UK first issue SPARTY vinyl and it sounds great found on Amazon for £13 n mint sleeve and vinyl.
    I also have a Canadian first issue I bought
    Sealed and when I compared it I preferred my first issue UK just a little better, rich bass and clarity.
    I also have Sony Legacy 2016 issue made in germany which sounds very good.
    But most APP vinyl seems well made and as said Vintage albums tend to be cared for by their owners.
    Hope you find nice copy.FC.
     
    Last edited: Jan 24, 2019
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  17. narf0815

    narf0815 Member Thread Starter

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    thanks for your input everybody! i'll keep you posted!
     
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  18. Echoes Myron

    Echoes Myron Forum Resident

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    I have not heard the MOV but I am a big fanatic of this album. I have about a dozen copies... US, UK, Canadian, Classic, and MOFI.

    I recommend either the MOFI 2x45 (my favorite version of this album) or for about $5 you can find a NM original US Arista. The original US copies can be mindblowing.

    Also now that you have discovered this amazing group you should check out their Tales of Mystery and Imagination.
     
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  19. The MFSL of this is superlative! One of the best sounding LPs in my collection.
     
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  20. Neonbeam

    Neonbeam All Art Was Once Contemporary

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    What does everybody think of the first MFSL vinyl issue from 198....was it 3? 1982? Recently saw the old MFSL CD for 10€ and wondered how this could be so cheap.
     
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  21. It was 1982 and is catalogue # MFSL 1-084. The lacquer was cut by Stan Ricker and mastered by Chris Blair. It's a nice pressing and can be had for a reasonable price.
     
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  22. Slick Willie

    Slick Willie Decisively Indecisive

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  23. Slick Willie

    Slick Willie Decisively Indecisive

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    The WG seems to use US stampers, but I have compared a German A1/B2 press to the UK, US, and MoFi.
    The UK cut is the one I go to.
     
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  24. Echoes Myron

    Echoes Myron Forum Resident

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    Me too! There are so many good versions of this but I like
    1) MOFI 2x45
    2) Classic
    3) UK
    4) US Arista
    I still need to get the older MOFI, Japanese, German...I also continue to pick up clean US copies pretty often. I can't pass up a clean US copy of this, especially for under $10. I think the last one I bought was $1.

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  25. c-eling

    c-eling Somehow I See There Are Ships In Her Eyes...

    You guys are as bad as me with The Cocteau Twins and Rio :laugh:
    Nice collections!
     
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