Are you satisfied with The Beatles Red and Blue compilations?

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by PaulKTF, Jul 22, 2016.

  1. Vinyl Addict

    Vinyl Addict Forum Resident

    Location:
    MA
    I just saw the Blue album on blue vinyl (not a boot) at a local shop for $25, I probably should have grabbed it.
     
  2. alexpop

    alexpop Power pop + other bad habits....

    It's enevitable. But, something tells me it's not a general public release, super~ audio means jack .. to them.
     
  3. alexpop

    alexpop Power pop + other bad habits....

    Like the seventies colored UK vinyl.
     
  4. I Walk Like A Panther

    I Walk Like A Panther Forum Resident

    It all started for me with the Red and the Blue albums. So altering them would feel sacrilegious.

    Over the years, I wondered why some obvious songs weren't included--Rain, She's A Woman, I Should Have Known Better, Good Day Sunshine, among others--but then again you can't perfect the perfect.
     
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  5. Emilio

    Emilio Senior Member

    I remember when they were originally released in 1973. They were perfect for their time. I don't think it makes much sense to reissue them on CD without any additional tracks, though. The only song I would add is "Twist and Shout", which would then be the only cover version to be included.
     
  6. qwerty

    qwerty A resident of the SH_Forums.

    I've tended to play the UK (Aust.) LPs rather than Red+Blue. The comp's are OK, I've always thought the Red was stingy because of the very short sides. In Australia we had the budget-priced single-LP compilation The Essential Beatles, which had a good selection. As it's my first Beatles LP it got played a lot of times.

    SideA:
    Love Me Do
    Boys
    Long Tall Sally
    Honey Don't
    P.S. I Love You
    Baby You're A Rich Man
    All My Loving
    Yesterday
    Penny Lane

    Side B:
    Magical Mystery Tour
    Norwegian Wood
    With A Little Help From My Friends
    All You Need Is Love
    Something
    Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da
    Let It Be

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    And I loved the back cover, showing a timeline of the the visual changes in the band, and where each song fits in the timeline:
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  7. kaztor

    kaztor Music is the Best

    Yes, they're fine as-is, but it all could've fit nicely on 2 cd's instead of... yeah, 4..?
     
  8. kaztor

    kaztor Music is the Best

    To make room for it? How much room do you need? Even on vinyl the Red could've had about 25 minutes added...
     
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  9. Dinstun

    Dinstun Forum Resident

    Location:
    Middle Tennessee
    Blue album is almost 100 minutes.
     
  10. Weird sequencing.
     
  11. qwerty

    qwerty A resident of the SH_Forums.

    That never got in the way of my enjoyment of this disk - it's The Beatles, after all!
     
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  12. dbone828

    dbone828 Only Visiting This Planet

    1962–1966 and 1967–1970 are great compilations, and easily the best starter albums for any Beatles newcomer, however, they are not perfect.

    Most of the songs on the sets deserve their slot, but there are a few head-scratchers:
    • "Girl" brings Rubber Soul's total to 6, which is way too much.
    • There are better Harrison songs and better B-sides to include over "Old Brown Shoe."
    • While I understand why they included "Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da" and "Octopus's Garden," there are more worthy songs from their respective albums.
    The biggest problem is what isn't there:
    • Only 2 songs from Revolver, what is considered by many to be their best album. Any of the following would have been welcome: "Taxman," "Here, There and Everywhere," "Got to Get You Into My Life," "Tomorrow Never Knows."
    • Very surprising that "I Saw Her Standing There" and "Twist and Shout" were omitted, even if the latter was a cover. "Do You Want to Know a Secret" was also a #2 hit for the Beatles, but it isn't as iconic as the other two.
    • While the Blue Album gives a generous sampling of non-album B-sides, the Red Album misses out on an opportunity to showcase some great flip-sides from the early years ("This Boy," "She's a Woman," "I'm Down," "Rain")
    • A lot of great White Album songs feel missed: "Blackbird," "Dear Prudence," "Happiness Is a Warm Gun," "Helter Skelter."
    • From the first time I heard Abbey Road, I wondered why "Golden Slumbers"/"Carry That Weight"/"The End" wasn't included on the Blue Album.
    • "Hey Bulldog" should have been included to represent Yellow Submarine.
    • While the Blue Album contains 28 tracks (2 discs with 14 each), the Red Album only contains 26 for some reason.
    I'm also a little disappointed with how the re-issues over the years have been handled:
    • The combined length of the Red Album's discs is 63 minutes, which would have easily fit onto a single CD. Instead, they chose to release it onto 2 discs.
    • CD releases would have also been a great opportunity to include bonus tracks that should have been on the original releases. Kind of like how the Rolling Stones' 28-track Rolled Gold was re-released with 40 tracks in 2007.
    Here are the bonus tracks I would have added to the CD re-releases:

    1962–1966

    CD 1
    • I Saw Her Standing There
    • Twist and Shout
    • Do You Want to Know a Secret
    • I Should Have Known Better
    • If I Fell
    CD 2
    • I'm Down
    • Rain
    • Taxman
    • Got to Get You Into My Life
    • Tomorrow Never Knows
    1967–1970

    CD 1
    • Dear Prudence
    • Happiness Is a Warm Gun
    • Blackbird
    • Helter Skelter
    CD 2
    • Hey Bulldog
    • Golden Slumbers
    • Carry That Weight
    • The End
     
  13. Oh I know it just seems kind of thrown together and given how much they changed over time, it's kind of odd.
     
  14. As I recall three of the four Beatles insisted that the albums have only band compositions not covers which is probably why something like "Twist and Shout", "Money", etc.
     
  15. DCW

    DCW been a-boogeyin' since I ditched the stroller.

    That Red Album was my first non-Kiss album. I absolutely cherished it. The Red Album is from where I learned song structure and studied how to be a naïve 13 year-old's version of "hip" and romantic. "And I Love Her" introduced me to the sound of the Classical guitar, which I still study.

    My brother destroyed mine with a baseball bat out of spite a few days after my 16th birthday, and it broke my heart. Other than magically restructuring my personal copy, I wouldn't change a thing. It is my hope to eventually replace mine with an original pressing in clean condition.
     
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  16. Rodney Toady

    Rodney Toady Waste of cyberspace

    Location:
    Finland
    No compact-ish compilation can ever be perfect, but these are definitely among the better ones. I may not agree with all the song choices, but I doubt I could come up with better overall results if I were to put together similar sets from scratch.
     
  17. Holerbot6000

    Holerbot6000 Forum Resident

    Location:
    California
    I grew up with them. My parents had records like Red and Blue and Endless Summer on 8-Track and we would listen on trips. I have a sentimental attachment that taints my judgement but I still think they're great for what they are. If I wanted to turn someone on to the Beatles who had never heard them, I wouldn't hesitate to recommend the Red album.
     
  18. stef1205

    stef1205 Forum Resident

    I think they are great. And contain almost everything I need.
     
  19. Haristar

    Haristar Apollo C. Vermouth

    Location:
    Hampshire, UK
    Too many Rubber Soul songs and not enough Revolver songs.
     
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  20. As mentioned by the original poster, I would put The Red album on a single disc but other than that they are fine.
     
  21. mahanusafa02

    mahanusafa02 Forum Resident

    Location:
    UK
    Fine as is. They're largely irrelevant for me, anyway, having the entirety of the core catalog (as do most here, I'm sure). I keep Blue only for the variation of the clean intro to "A Day in the Life."
     
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  22. Arnold Grove

    Arnold Grove Senior Member

    Location:
    NYC
    Which three?
     
  23. Dinstun

    Dinstun Forum Resident

    Location:
    Middle Tennessee
    A one disc Red album with a two disc Blue album would be horrible aesthetically. Keep 'em original as doubles.
     
  24. Zoot Marimba

    Zoot Marimba And I’m The Critic Of The Group

    Location:
    Savannah, Georgia
    I owned the Blue at one point, and I really dug (this was before I owned any studio albums). I am just fine with it as it is. Truth be told, any diehard would choose a different tracklist than what we got, cause we apways think "oh it should have had this song or that one." Really this was made for casuals, as all compilations are.
     
  25. bhazen

    bhazen GOO GOO GOO JOOB

    Location:
    Deepest suburbia
    In The Beatles: An Illustrated Record the authors described the four 1962-1970 discs as "assembled by accountants" (or similar language). The whole thing feels like it was playing it safe.

    I like the idea of a fresh 3-CD compilation utilising the full 80 minute capacity, including all UK and US singles (and their B-sides); plus, fill in some underrepresented album tracks (Revolver and the "white album", for example.) I'm very sorry Ian MacDonald (Revolution In The Head) is gone, he would have been close to ideal to compile it; not to mention providing the essay in the booklet.
     
    Last edited: Sep 25, 2016
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