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BBM (Baker, Bruce, and Moore) questions

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Canuck Jazzguy, Aug 15, 2015.

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  1. Canuck Jazzguy

    Canuck Jazzguy Well-Known Member Thread Starter

    Hey all,
    After lurking on this site for 3 years or so, I've decided to join in on the discussions. What a great idea Mr. Hoffman had to open up the universe of online music conversation to all of us music obsessives!
    So, as a huge fan of Gary Moore and an even huger fan of Cream, the all-too-brief BBM supergroup has captured my enthusiasm for over 20 years. Their one album and (fabulous) handful of b-sides (plus their early appearance at Bruce's 50th birthday concerts) left me wishing for more.
    I read an interview with Jack Bruce from late 1994, in which he said that he and Moore were busy writing songs for a second BBM album, and that the songs were notably different from the sound they cultivated on 'Around the Next Dream'. Does anyone know if they actually recorded anything for a second album? Was the BBM track "One Day" (released on Moore's 'Ballads and Blues' CD) an out-take from the first album or something from an aborted second one? Are there any tracks left over and still unreleased from the sessions for the first album?
     
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  2. dylankicks

    dylankicks Forum Resident

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    Sorry that I can't help answer your questions, but I appreciate you bringing them up. Love all three and need to check out their work. I remember reading a concert review during that time and being upset with myself for not being aware of, and attending the concert that was 90 minutes from where I lived.
     
  3. MYQ1

    MYQ1 Forum Resident

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    How many b-sides were there & what were their titles?
     
  4. Atmospheric

    Atmospheric Forum Resident

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    I thought that Ginger and Jack couldn't stand each other.
     
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  5. NumberEight

    NumberEight Came too late and stayed too long

  6. Matthew Tate

    Matthew Tate Forum Resident

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    there is a cd version of the album with the b-sides on it
     
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  7. DaveinMA

    DaveinMA Forum Resident

    From interviews, Baker couldn't stand Bruce, but not the other way around.
     
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  8. MYQ1

    MYQ1 Forum Resident

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    Thanks, didn't know that.

    I believe there is a pro-shot concert of them on YouTube.
    Would be sweet if it were released as a official CD / DVD set someday.
     
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  9. czeskleba

    czeskleba Senior Member

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    And it didn't stop them from working together from time to time. In addition to BBM, Baker appeared on Jack's 1989 album A Question of Time and even toured with him to support it.
     
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  10. Matthew Tate

    Matthew Tate Forum Resident

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    its on the 2002 remaster. i have it

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce-Baker-Moore
     
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  11. MYQ1

    MYQ1 Forum Resident

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  12. shaboo

    shaboo Forum Resident

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    The b-sides are, the concert is not.
     
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  13. shaboo

    shaboo Forum Resident

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    It was an out-take from the first album, but was left out as there were enough ballads on the album.
     
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  14. Humbuster

    Humbuster Big hat, no cattle

    In addition to Ginger's well documented issues with Jack, he was not enamoured with Moore' playing and personality according to his autobiography. Ginger claims to have only done it for the money.
     
  15. Canuck Jazzguy

    Canuck Jazzguy Well-Known Member Thread Starter

    Anybody know why Ginger didn't play on the BBM single "Where in the World"? The CD booklet says that someone named Arzan Ahmun played drums on that track. It's weird to me that, for their one and only single, there is a fill-in for their famous drummer.
     
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  16. Matthew Tate

    Matthew Tate Forum Resident

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    the b sides
     
  17. bRETT

    bRETT Forum Resident

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    Nothing personal though, he can't stand anybody!
     
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  18. NumberEight

    NumberEight Came too late and stayed too long

    Thanks to you both for directing me to this. I hadn't known anything about it.
     
  19. rgutter

    rgutter Forum Resident

    According to this Irish Gary Moore site:

    1993.Nov./1994.Mar. Prod. BBM & Ian Taylor (GM & Taylor 17)
    Outside Studios, Sarm West Studios
    Gary Moore, guitar, lead vocal 3,4,8,9,11,12,16,17 – Jack Bruce, vocal, bass, cello, keyboards 10 – Peter ‘Ginger’ Baker, drums, percussion – Tommy Eyre, keyboards – Akram Ahmun, dr. 3 – Morris Morphy, Bach trumpet 6
    [...]
    1. “Waiting In The Wings”* (3.40)
    2. “City Of Gold”* (3.54)
    3. “Where In The World”* (5.18)
    4. “Can’t Fool The Blues”* (5.14)
    5. “High Cost Of Loving” (5.39)
    6. “Glory Days”* (4.17)
    7. “Why Does Love Have To Go Wrong”* (8.23)
    8. “Naked Flame”* (6.04)
    9. “I Wonder Why (Are You So Mean To Me?)” (4.54)
    10. “Wrong Side Of Town”* (3.54)
    11. “Danger Zone”* (5.53)
    12. “World Keeps On Turning” (7.47)
    13. “Where In The World”* (4.57) edit.
    14. “Waiting In The Wings”* (5.08) (Demo tape)
    15. “Waiting In The Wings” (4.09) (Promo tape)
    16. “Naked Flame”* (6.08) (Promo/demo tape)
    17. “One Day”* (3.58)
    [...]
    (15) and (16) are from a Virgin promotion tape. Almost all tracks are identical to the [original] CD. (13) and (14) are from a demo tape with 5 tracks, presented at a Virgin PR meeting in April 1994. The only major difference is on (1). The demo/promo versions are longer.​
     
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  20. Canuck Jazzguy

    Canuck Jazzguy Well-Known Member Thread Starter

    Wow, really helpful information, answering questions I've had for decades! Thanks!!!
    I had read somewhere in an interview with Gary Moore that the concerts from BBM's only tour were professionally recorded. Let's hope that somehow, someday, we'll see a legit soundboard release! The 'grey area' recordings that I've heard from the tour certainly feature wickedly hot playing, but the sound quality is invariably dire.
     
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  21. kevin5brown

    kevin5brown Cucaracha Expert

    I didn't even know about this band, and I'm a big fan of (ahem) BLT & Seven Moons, for example. I'll have to get this, thanks!
     
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  22. John Buchanan

    John Buchanan I'm just a headphone kinda guy.

    For a preview of the band, get a hold of Jack Bruce's "Cities Of The Heart". Live, great sound and fantastic performances. BBM are mostly on the second CD.
     
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  23. Voodoo Child

    Voodoo Child Just A Flea-Bit Peanut Monkey

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    Don't delay! It's a great album, it's been a favourite of mine since it was first released.
     
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  24. JulesRules

    JulesRules Operational, partially functional

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    According to the Gary Moore bible, the album was originally planned with Gary Husband on drums. This lineup did record two songs that were released on the Ballads & Blues CD - "With Love (Remember)" and "Blues for Narada". Whether these were recorded before or after the BBM album I don't know (the GM bible says the latter).

    I actually only recently got the album and I'm pretty critical - there's only three songs on there ("Where in the World", "Glory Days" and "Wrong Side of Town") IMO that really make sense in that constellation. The other tracks are either Cream re-writes or songs that would have been just as good on one of Gary's solo albums. Great playing overall of course...
     
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  25. JulesRules

    JulesRules Operational, partially functional

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    Also, this is probably the right one:
    Brit Floyd | The World's Greatest Pink Floyd Tribute Show | Arran Ahmun »
     
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