Best vintage Marantz receiver?

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  1. audiorocks

    audiorocks Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    I really like the looks of the 2275. Which are the best sounding ones?
     
  2. allied333

    allied333 Audiophile

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    The best and almost universally agreed upon by many is 2330 and for a more tube like sound the 2270. Both will cost $1K hopefully refurbished from ebay. I owned a few.
     
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  3. bluemooze

    bluemooze Senior Member

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    The only Marantz I've ever heard is my 2238B, but for me it was an instant favorite. In daily use here. :)
     
  4. audiorocks

    audiorocks Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    Was a black face an option on the 2270 or is that a modification?
     
  5. mongo

    mongo Senior Member

    Not to my memory at least in 1973.
    When I bought my first stereo system, I did a home audition between a Marantz 2270 receiver & a Mac MA-6100 integrated.
    The Mac won for SQ, but the Marantz with the blue lights and the smooth as silk fly wheel tuner exuded cool.
     
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  6. Victor/Victrola

    Victor/Victrola Makng shure its write

    I had a Model 4270 Quad and it was a beast. It sounded great, had loads of power, crisp and clear. It finally fried out - one of the channels developed excessive static and another completely went silent. It was, no doubt, the finest receiver I've ever owned.
     
  7. BIGGER Dave

    BIGGER Dave Forum Resident

    Mine is still in daily use too. Bought it new in the 70’s when I was a teenager. (Or I should say my grandfather bought it for me.).
     
  8. Billion$Baby

    Billion$Baby Forum Resident

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    Top 3 are 2330, 2325 and 2285. Lots of info on AUDIO KARMA... you might want to check out for Vintage gear of all brands. You'll get better and more informed info there. Plenty of guys on that page that restore them too.
     
  9. Magic

    Magic I'm just this guy, ya know?

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    My first receiver was a Marantz 2230. Thought it sounded perfect. Never owned another one so I don't have anything to compare it with.
     
  10. audiorocks

    audiorocks Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    Kind of mixed opinions on the 2270.
     
  11. McLover

    McLover Senior Member

    Model 18, the best Marantz receiver ever made, or the Model 19, The last vestiges of Saul B. Marantz's and Sidney Smith's designs and engineering. Built in the good old USA to boot. Both were the last Marantz direct competitors to McIntosh.
     
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  12. mike catucci

    mike catucci Forum Resident

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    Interested in this great topic.
     
  13. Gramps Tom

    Gramps Tom Forum Resident

    I have owned the following:

    2270
    2275
    2240
    2245

    Model 16 Power amp
    3300 Pre-amp

    I currently own:
    2265b
    1060 Integrated Amp
    sr-4320

    The 2270, mfg in 1971, had a more 'warm-1970's' sound, and was significantly different than the 2265b, mfg in 1978. The 2265b is somewhat more bright in a great way. I love both. The 2275 was similar to the 2265b. The 2240 and 2245 were almost identical to the 2270. I prefer the look of the 2265b series. The blue numerals are striking when seen lit up.

    The 1060 Integrated is an absolute workhorse. The phono section is awesome, and the amp has served me well since 1972 without issue. It drives my speakers best at about the 10 O'Clock position, tone controls flat. That amp delivers its best starting there.

    However, that combination of Model 16 Power amp & Model 3300 Pre-amp was several cuts above, sonically. Both mfg in about 1971. The depth and 'permanence' of sound cannot be described. I acquired them before the pricing insanity set in on vintage gear.

    These are my actual units:

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  14. Billion$Baby

    Billion$Baby Forum Resident

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    I have a completely restored Model 19 and I think its HIGHLY Overrated. It cant even compare to the other models I listed earlier in the thread performance wise. Sounds nothing like any of those. Guaranteed to never be plugged in again under my ownership anyway. Just my 2 cents
     
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  15. Pavol Stromcek

    Pavol Stromcek Senior Member

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    I love my 2235B.
     
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  16. stuwee

    stuwee Forum Resident

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    I've owned 2 2270's, I don't know what was done to them before I bought them, they sounded fantastic, I had to use just the pre section into another amp, because the amp couldn't handle the wicked load the Martin Logan's craved. On some days with some nice old JBL's the amp got a good work out! Great fun.

    I love what Saul designed into his babies, a nice tube-like sound, the over stated 3 martini sound is a fallacy, it's a unique sound, either you like it or you don't, I LIKEY!! Remember, some gear/speakers/cables need some help in the eq area of the presentation, my speakers don't suffer no fools, colored? Maybe, do I like what I hear? Yep!!

    I miss my old 2270's, and kudo's to the 2265/2230 that have the best phono sections I've heard in an old receiver...
     
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  17. ggergm

    ggergm another spring another baseball season

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    I haven't owned a 2270 but I sold them and recommended my best friend growing up buy one (he did). Their sound is quite smooth. Especially in the 1970s, when there were some truly awful transistorized amps out there, they sounded terrific. If he wants a Marantz, I fully endorse the idea of the OP finding one that works well and buying it.

    To answer another question in this thread, I never saw a black faced 2270 in the old days. I personally think the silver faceplate accented by blue lights looks timeless.
     
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  18. dividebytube

    dividebytube Forum Resident

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    Heh - speaking of Marantz. I used to own - when I was only 20 *kaff* - a Marantz 240 power amplifier. At the time I was getting into tube gear and the Marantz, unless it was left on 24/7, sounded very, very harsh in comparison. It would take a few hours to "warm up" otherwise the sound, as I remember it, would drive me out of the room. It was a classy looking amp though, especially with the blow star a-glowin'.

    Pic taken from le internet:

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  19. audiorocks

    audiorocks Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    So Marantz and McIntosh were the big rivalry in those days? Marantz eventually sold out and McIntosh continues?

    I have got to find an excuse to put together a vintage system.
     
  20. Bob_in_OKC

    Bob_in_OKC Forum Resident

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    Marantz was sold to Superscope even before most of the models mentioned in this thread. Selling isn’t always the end. Even McIntosh has been sold. But Marantz was eventually a brand that didn’t have any resemblance to its former self.
     
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  21. Gramps Tom

    Gramps Tom Forum Resident

    There were several Marantz units mfg in countries other than USA that had black faceplates.

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  22. Gramps Tom

    Gramps Tom Forum Resident

    Very wise and accurate post, Bob. I will also add the MARANTZ has also emerged building quality gear once again. I acquired a nr-mnt SR-4320 receiver last summer for about $125, and am enjoying it immensely. It was mfg in 2005.

    IIRC, their parent company is currently Sound United, LLC, under whose umbrella also resides Denon & Boston Acoustics, committed to developing higher-end equipment.
     
  23. Gramps Tom

    Gramps Tom Forum Resident

    THX for joging my memory. I never perceived the MARANTZ brand was rivaled by McIntosh. It seemed in my experience it was MARANTZ as the standard-setter vs. Harmon-Kardon, Pioneer, Sansui, Sony, Fisher, Kenwood, Technics, etc. for receivers, integrated amps, tuners, and separate amps-pre amps. Companies like McIntosh, Phase Linear were steps above the receiver or integrated amp market, where MARANTZ and some others did mfg offerings.

    The big thing with the MARANTZ sound was that there seemed to be a slight eq 'curve', especially noticed in their phono sections that is appealing. The other named brands were a little more straight-line oriented.

    But, man-o-man, that MARANTZ sound is unmistakable while it feeds the soul. Most of us like it, but a few don't. There's a brand loyalty factor for some, also. Like, do you prefer Ford, Chevy, Dodge, or Nissan trucks? They all do their jobs well.

    One receiver company I neglected by accident above is ONKYO. I also own a TX-2500 MK II, 40 watts/channel, that I bought new in 1978 for about $375. It is a true beauty, sporting a real glass dial front. The MK II series is unique, and is higher quality mfg efforts than their other offerings of the period. ONKYO built in some balls into the performance that their prior line lacked. That MK II series is a relative bargain for a vintage system heart vs. some of the other brands discussed. There are other ONKYO receivers in that line and vintage worthwhile searching for and targeting. Again, it is truly gorgeous.

    [​IMG] A stock photo-not my exact unit.
     
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  24. McLover

    McLover Senior Member

    Cheaper for a reason. Not junk. Too spec sheet for
    Did you have it refurbished correctly? Did you use speakers suited to it's needs. After all, it needs speakers suited to low damping factor amplification. Not knocking 1970's Marantz at it's best, they made some nice ones. I like the best of them.
     
  25. Billion$Baby

    Billion$Baby Forum Resident

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    No I had it restored incorrectly so my other 50-60 Receivers would sound better. I only use JBL 166/4312A on vintage gear.
     
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