CCR - Original multitrack mastertapes?

The recently reissued CCR SACD's are worlds better than the original Fantasy CDs and the Japanese import K2s, but having said that these recordings are never going to win awards for the original engineering.

I am wondering whatever happened to the original multitrack tapes of these recordings? Why they were never used for any of these reissues in the past? Are they simply lost or locked up due to legal battles?
-wolf

 

Lol!

Hmmm... does this mean Credence was "made" by the mixing engineers?

 

It funny, but I always felt the Creedence stuff generally sounded pretty good, with some songs sounding very good, and some others that could be better.

I planned on buying some of Steve's new Creedence and AP Jazz LP's with my tax refund, plus some other new vinyl reissues, but I didn't plan on losing my job when I did, so they'll have to wait for a little bit (end of ramble ).

 

Truly sorry to hear about your misfortune. But if I may take a lighter note. I got a chuckle out of your home town-- Lodi. I always liked that tune.

 

I have question kind of related to this. Why isn't Chronicle remastered yet? Does anyone know when it will be done.

 

My guess has always been that a package of hits might drastically cut into sales of the individual albums as many people might limit their purchase to the hits comp. Steve might have the definitive answer, though.

 

Lodi, California...

 

Why is slap echo (slapback) called"slap" or "slapback"??? Boss, anybody??? Knowing that alla that tubey madness was going on back then, would you/could you (Dr. Seuss, anyone???) make stereo mixes that were actually wide enough to discern into distinct stereo, not the rhythm guitar only that pops up in those mixes on one channel), or is it a matter of ending up with something that bears little resemblance to the original mix??? I'm thinking of the point at which the original sacd/lp's sales have tailed off - would Fantasy allow you a crack at updated mixes, or is that verboten??? Am I asking too many questions, huh, am I???? (Sorry, The Chuck Jones Show was on Cartoon Network the other day and a bunch of Sniffles cartoons were shown)...

 

Too bad Dwight Twilley isn't a member here. HE'D know for sure!

 

I've always figured it was because it's similar sounding to what happens when a sound slaps against a hard wall and bounces back.

 

Maybe he lurks!!! Iffen he was here, I'd bet Twilley don't mind sharing his info!

 

From what i've heard from folks in the biz, its John Fogerty who wont allow the CCR tapes to be remixed. I guess he feels that the classic CCR sound that they got on the records cant be duplicated, which is hogwash.

What I'd LOVE is a 5.1 mix of CCRs 20 greatest tracks. THAT would be audio heaven.

 

No, I know where it started - why is it referred to as "slap" or "slapback"???

 

There are some of us who don't think it's "hogwash". I have yet to hear a remix (*) that truly captured the essense of the original mixdown sessions.

(*) Caveat: I'm not talking about twintrack or three-track mixdowns, where things where basically panned and let run. Mixing 8+ tracks can be an immense challenge. Digging up period reverbs, compressors, and the like can a huge chore unto itself. Getting all the eq, effects, and pans correct is a massive undertaking.

Heck, I know this just from mixing my own band's stuff. I don't think I ever mixed the same song twice the same way.

Getting that magic back 35 years later? I dunno.... Didn't seem to work with The Who, or D&TD's Layla.

jeff

 

That's what I was fishing for!!! I'd slap you on the back (if I just lived a little bit closer to the left coast)...

 

I love the fact that I can now hear the original CCR mixes in hi-rez...wish the Apple camp felt the same reverance for the original mono Beatles mixes!

Those (Beatles) mixes are finished, sound great and have been in the can for years. I guess they are doomed to stay there.

 

Zanz can't dance!!

 

Steve, as you know, there are the BSN regular posters and Mike Callahan who insist on stereo whenever possible, especially wide stereo.

 

Of course, those are poor examples. Better ones would be the Byrds and Simon & Garfunkel. Not always 100% like the originals, but Pretty Darn Close (TM).

Don't forget that some CCR has already been remixed, into Quad.

 

Please, Steve, PLEEEEEASSSSE, do a Creedence Gold SACD with the quad mix on the MC layer! Would they let you? Would the fact that it wouldn't have all the hit 45s like Chronicle help towards this goal (wouldn't cannibalize sales as much)?