cd-r's with WAV files on them

Discussion in 'Audio Hardware' started by BrianH, Sep 20, 2004.

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  1. BrianH

    BrianH Formerly healyb Thread Starter

    Location:
    usa
    A car cd player will play discs with WAV files on them right?
    Most of the music files I have are WAV and I just need a good car player that will do CD-R's with WAV's on them.
     
  2. JonUrban

    JonUrban SHF Member #497

    Location:
    Connecticut
    You need to burn the wave files using Roxio or Nero and create an audio CD. The file format will be .cda files. If you just copy wave files to a CDR as "files", they will not play in your player.
     
  3. BrianH

    BrianH Formerly healyb Thread Starter

    Location:
    usa
    ok thanks a lot!
     
  4. Dave

    Dave Esoteric Audio Research Specialistâ„¢

    Location:
    B.C.
    You forgot one of the great burning programs that's free Jon. I highly recommend EAC which you can get here.
     
  5. Vivaldinization

    Vivaldinization Active Member

    (nitpick).cda files aren't files...they're just a placeholder entity Windows uses to pretend that CD Audio discs have file-systems instead of streams.

    Of course, this brings up another of my big issues: by this point, CD players *should* be able to play WAV files on CDRs. In fact, they should be able to play all sorts of PCM, including that in lossless formats. Why hasn't this happened?

    Re. EAC for burning...meh. It's OK. If it likes your burner, you'll have good luck with it, but it fails fairly easily...it doesn't have the most sophisticated engine around. Drag-n-drop burning is fairly simple (and, unlike Nero, it keeps whatever order you drag the files in instead of arbitrarily reassigning them), but to get a decent experience out of EAC you have to know a little bit about .cuesheet writing.
     
  6. BrianH

    BrianH Formerly healyb Thread Starter

    Location:
    usa
    cd players can't play WAV's on cd-r's??
    Why the hell not?

    So I just bring them all over into nero and transform them into cd audio I guess right?
     
  7. SVL

    SVL Forum Resident

    Location:
    Kiev, Ukraine
    Yes; you can just open a new CD-DA project and drag the WAVs into the new project window - Nero will convert them for you.
     
  8. BrianH

    BrianH Formerly healyb Thread Starter

    Location:
    usa
    Thats what I'm gonna do.

    You'd think by now cd players could play WAV cd-r's
     
  9. Grant

    Grant Life is a rock, but the radio rolled me!

    I don't know what version of Nero you use, but Nero 5.5 always writes the CD in the order in which I put the songs, every time!
     
  10. Sckott

    Sckott Hand Tighten Only.

    Location:
    South Plymouth, Ma
    Yo, G: If you drag songs in all at once, it likes to reassign it's own "running order" and you have to literally reposition the tracks before you burn it.

    For some reason, there's no way around this imperfection. You could even have track numbers (01, 02, 03) and for some reason, it won't position the tracks the way you'd think it would.

    Most of the time it's:

    07
    08
    09
    01
    02
    03
    04
    05
    06

    And you have to put it BACK in order even if it's dragged over perfectly fine.
     
  11. Vivaldinization

    Vivaldinization Active Member

    Grant, what Sckott said. It's some internal weirdness with the way Windows actually orders files. Additionally, Nero pays attention to where you drop files in its window, so just dragging the files in in order isn't enough; you have to make sure you're "dropping" them at the very bottom, which is surprisingly difficult. As long as you drag from WITHIN Nero, you're usually OK.
     
  12. RJL2424

    RJL2424 Forum Resident

    Like everyone has said, CD players cannot play WAV's on CD-R's that have been burned as data discs - if you try to play such a disc, you'll either hear only speaker-damaging noise, or that CD player will not even read it. The .WAV format is different from the audio format that CD players can recognize.
     
  13. Sckott

    Sckott Hand Tighten Only.

    Location:
    South Plymouth, Ma
    Exactly.

    There is NO REASON for someone to make a "playable" data disc of 44.1/16 bit unless it is literally a backup copy for future burning. It's actually USEFUL to save a data CD of your 44.1/16 bit wav information if you think you'll lose or ruin a valueable disc in the future because making a secure copy of this data as data is easier than re-ripping the disc.

    So either you're making a backup CD of wav data for the future re-burning or you record a CD straight-up from PCM.
     
  14. Grant

    Grant Life is a rock, but the radio rolled me!

    Guys, I just checked it again. If I drag and drop multiple files all at once, they are all placed in the exact order. Same with single D&D.

    I don't know what you all are experiencing. D&D works perfect for me every time. The same is true under WinXP as well as Win98.
     
  15. stereoptic

    stereoptic Anaglyphic GORT Staff

    Location:
    NY
    When I use EAC and I select the tracks that I want, EAC places them in the same order as they are in the dialog box. I will usually select the "details" option in the dialog box, and then sort on "date modified", because I usually rip the songs in the same order that I want them on in the compilation. If I don't resort, then it loads them in the default, alphabetical, order.
     
  16. Grant

    Grant Life is a rock, but the radio rolled me!

    I'm talking about Nero...
     
  17. BradOlson

    BradOlson Country/Christian Music Maven

    CD-Rs with .wav files can only be played on computers but almost every DVD players you buy these days also plays CD-Rs with MP3s and/or WMA files. If I want a lossy compression scheme on my stereo, I have an MD player for that. Yeah I know that .wav files are not compressed.
     
  18. stereoptic

    stereoptic Anaglyphic GORT Staff

    Location:
    NY
    oh... nevermind... :laugh:
     
  19. Clint_f

    Clint_f Forum Resident

    Location:
    Everett, WA
    I'm not sure if I'm understanding you correctly, but next time you drag the files onto Nero or whatever program (it's a Windows D&D issue, not a program issue), select the files you want to D&D, then drag with the FIRST item on the list, track 01 in your case. Then they should end up on the program in the correct order.
     
  20. Joe Koz

    Joe Koz Prodigal Bone Brotherâ„¢ In Memoriam

    Location:
    Chicagoland
    The only program that keeps the song order I put them in, is EZCD Creator 6. Every other program that I use to burn CD-R's (Adobe Audition & Nero), have the same problem described above.
     
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