Clint Eastwood Appreciation Thread

Discussion in 'Visual Arts' started by Raylinds, Jan 23, 2020.

  1. Richard--W

    Richard--W Forum Resident

    I liked him in Rawhide, Hang 'em High, Coogan's Bluff and Kelly's Heroes.
    I didn't mind him in Paint Your Wagon.
    Two Mules For Sister Sara was okay, too.

    That's about it.
     
  2. Richard--W

    Richard--W Forum Resident

    He's been saying NEVER AGAIN to westerns for a long time.
    He doesn't like westerns. He never did. Making westerns was something
    everybody did when his career started but he left them behind a couple
    of times. He has stated that after UNFORGIVEN he'd never make another.
     
  3. yesstiles

    yesstiles Senior Member

    "The Gauntlet" is my favorite.
     
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  4. Grand_Ennui

    Grand_Ennui Forum Resident

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    I liked "Beguiled" quite a bit myself...
     
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  5. NightGoatToCairo

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    imdb and Rotten Tomatoes agree.
     
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  6. alexpop

    alexpop Power pop + other bad habits....

    “He doesn’t like westerns”
    He was in loads.
    Not saying he has to act in a western but direct.
    Maybe a HBO series How The West Was Won, for example...only has to direct one part.
     
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  7. Richard--W

    Richard--W Forum Resident

    Loads?
    He made less westerns than any other western star.
    List & Count them for yourself.
     
  8. alexpop

    alexpop Power pop + other bad habits....

    Are you serious? :laugh:
     
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  9. Ignatius

    Ignatius Forum Resident

    Always been a fan of "Breezy", though that may have more to do with Kay Lenz.
    [​IMG]
     
  10. joepepitone

    joepepitone Forum Resident

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    I guess you could say I'm a fan, but started losing interest when it occurred to me that many of his movies follow a similar script. A retired ____ is recruited one last time to solve ______. Some higher up is rooting against him, but he is determined to prove everybody wrong. In the midst of all this he manages to get laid.

    If you really want to have some fun, seek out some movies by the famous Japanese director Akira Kurasawa. His production company successfully sued Eastwood's for plagiarizing the scripts for the early Eastwood westerns. I took a film class about Kurasawa and was shocked at the similarities.

    Akira Kurosawa - Wikipedia
     
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  11. Lightworker

    Lightworker Forum Resident

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    I like to think that Clint's early work exposed American audiences to Kurasawa's classic plots and themes. Kinda like the way The Rolling Stones
    and Yardbirds inspired me with their great cover versions to dig deeper into the Chess Records catalogue when I was a lad back in the mid-60s.
     
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  12. GregM

    GregM The expanding man

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    I rewatched Gran Tourino a couple weeks ago. It's amazing that Clint can act and direct so effectively to get those performances out of his other actors. They never break character or take you out of the situations in the film. In terms of budget, he always does so much with so little.
     
  13. Regginold31

    Regginold31 Forum Resident


    Clint was merely a hired hand on "A Fistful of Dollars". It was the director Sergio Leone who was sued and had to pay up. This from Wikipedia:


    The film was effectively an unofficial and unlicensed remake of Akira Kurosawa's 1961 film Yojimbo (written by Kurosawa and Ryūzō Kikushima), lifting traditional themes and character tropes usually typified within a Jidaigeki film. Kurosawa insisted that Leone had made "a fine movie, but it was my movie."[47] Leone ignored the resulting lawsuit, but eventually settled out of court, reportedly for 15% of the worldwide receipts of A Fistful of Dollars and over $100,000.​
     
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  14. Richard--W

    Richard--W Forum Resident

    Are you?

    Clint appeared in the TV series Rawhide as a supporting player
    until the last season when they made him the star.

    Clint made 3 spags in Spain and Italy:

    A Fistful of Dollars
    For a Few Dollars More
    The Good the Bad and the Ugly

    which don't really count as westerns. In content they are European
    farce with almost no content about the American west.

    In the USA Clint made 8 westerns:

    1968 Hang 'em High
    1969 Paint Your Wagon
    1970 Two Mules For Sister Sara
    1972 Joe Kidd
    1973 High Plains Drifter
    1976 The Outlaw Josie Wales
    1985 Pale Rider
    1992 Unforgiven

    Roy Rogers made more westerns in one year than Clint Eastwood did in
    his entire life. Rogers made 79 westerns plus his own TV western series.
    And Gene Autry starred in more westerns and TV episodes than Rogers.

    James Stewart, Joel McCrea, Henry Fonda, John Wayne, Allen Ladd,
    Audie Murphy, Gary Cooper and Randolph Scott each starred in ten
    times more westerns than Clint. Compare the number of Clint's to those
    starring Randolph Scott:

    1962 Ride the High Country
    1960 Comanche Station
    1959 Westbound
    1959 Ride Lonesome
    1958 Buchanan Rides Alone
    1957 Decision at Sundown
    1957 Shoot-out at Medicine Bend
    1957 The Tall T
    1956 7th Cavalry
    1956 Seven Men Fr0m Now
    1955 A Lawless Street
    1955 Rage at Dawn
    1955 Tall Man Riding
    1955 Ten Wanted Men
    1954 The Bounty Hunter 3D
    1954 Riding Shotgun
    1953 The Man Behind the Gun
    1953 The Stranger Wore a Gun 3D
    1953 Thunder Over the Plains
    1952 Carson City
    1952 Hangman's Knott
    1952 Man In the Saddle
    1951 Fort Worth
    1951 Santa Fe
    1951 Sugarfoot
    1950 The Cariboo Trail
    1950 Colt .45
    1950 The Nevadan
    1949 Canadian Pacific
    1949 The Doolins of Oklahoma
    1949 Fighting Man of the Plains
    1949 The Walking Hills
    1948 Albuquerque
    1948 Coroner Creek
    1948 Return of the Bad Man
    1947 Gunfighters
    1947 Trail Street
    1946 Abilene Town
    1946 Badman's Territory
    1944 Belle of the Yukon
    1943 The Desperadoes
    1942 The Spoilers
    1941 Belle Starr
    1941 Western Union
    1940 Virginia City
    1940 When the Daltons Rode
    1939 Frontier Marshall
    1939 Jesse James
    1939 Susannah of the Mounties
    1938 The Texans
    plus a dozen more.

    Clint "was in loads" of westerns. Yeah right.
     
  15. GregM

    GregM The expanding man

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    Yes, it became abundantly clear that Kurosawa's far east films are more "western" than our western films.

    For an excellent spoof of westerns and other types of films produced in the golden age of Hollywood, Hail Caesar is an fun exploration of the lack of faith and the fight between capitalism and communism with the studios and their productions.
     
  16. I’d love to see him return for one more western but it seems that his last one was his goodbye to the genre. How about Dirty Harry in retirement?
     
  17. mpayan

    mpayan A Tad Rolled Off

    Not enough squinting and sneering in this thread!
     
  18. alexpop

    alexpop Power pop + other bad habits....

    Gran Torino?
     
  19. Yeah it kinda is but I really want one where Harry is a retired cop working part time as a PI.
     
  20. That’s his training with director Don Siegel.
     
  21. I would add The Beguiled which is something of a Gothic Western. For the record, while he wasn’t a star or even a supporting actor, he did make other westerns
    Star in the Dust (bit part uncredited), The First Traveling Sales Lady (kind of a western comedy at least from a s eating POV), Ambush At Cimerraon Pass (he was third billed).

    He also made an appearance on Death Valley Days.

    all before his first Leone westerns and Rawhide.

    Still not quite as many as the others mentioned. I think we also have to consider that there were less westerns made by the time Eastwood’s career had taken off.

     
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  22. Richard--W

    Richard--W Forum Resident

    The Beguiled takes place during the Civil War in Georgia. Georgia is not in
    the west. It's in the east, specifically the southeast. That makes The Beguiled
    a period drama. I agree it is a very fine film, perhaps Don Siegel's best film,
    and I like your description of it as Gothic. It is certainly an American Gothic.

    I don't think Eastwood's work as a background extra, walk-throughs and
    a line or two on backlot sets count. If I included any other western actor's
    background work the sheer number would still outdistance Eastwood's.
    I don't say this to be mean or critical, but simple because it's true. He has
    made less westerns and contributed less to the genre than any other western
    actor. In fact, while he may be enormously popular, his impact on the genre
    has been destructive, when you stop to really examine it.
     
  23. I don’t think so. He was part of a genre that was on the decline and managed to help reinvent it by providing a modern context to relate to it.

    I would say that the genre was already changing at the time trying to stay relevant.

    thinking about it, I agree The Beguiled doesn’t belong in the genre but is part of the American Gothic tradition. For one of the westerns I mentioned he was third billed so more of a supporting role. As I mentioned, these really didn’t matter when it came to the westerns he starred in.
     
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  24. Clint Eastwood does not rule out a return to Westerns

    He didn’t rule it out as of 2017 he just indicated that he hadn’t seen my other scripts that have interested him. I doubt, though, at his age if he will be doing much in front of the camera and, if the time to revisit Westerns was a possibility, it would have been a decade ago. One of the reasons he did return was because he was excited by Samuel Peeples script for The Unforgiven.

    as to hating westerns, he’s never indicated that he does and he could have stopped making them ages before he did if he chose to. He is, however, allergic to horses.

    one other point which is that a western is more about the tropes and themes as there are modern day westerns but the traditional western, yeah, that’s a bit different. Curious take from academic film critics but not inaccurate

    “In the 1960s academic and critical attention to cinema as a legitimate art form emerged. ... One of the results of genre studies is that some have argued that "Westerns" need not take place in the American West or even in the 19th century, as the codes can be found in other types of films.”

    But, yeah, I think you can argue they aren’t true westerns.
     
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  25. captouch

    captouch Forum Resident

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    I'd be interested in hearing how his impact has been destructive to the genre.

    I think the westerns are how people first got to know Clint as an actor, so the perception that he was a Westerns actor kind of stuck. But I agree the # of pictures is actually relatively few, and I think as soon as he had the power/clout to have more of a say in the type of movies he made, he only very selectively went back to that genre.
     
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