David Bowie - New Live/Documentary Movie "Moonage Daydream"

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by EfWe, Nov 18, 2021.

  1. windfall

    windfall Senior Member

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    I enjoyed it to some extent for what it was. It's only when I think what it could have been that I feel disappointed. Seeing Bowie at the height of his vocal power and physical beauty, and supreme command of the stage, in that Earl's Court footage. I mean, Brett Morgen had full access, and that's all we got?? It was nice to see some of the Ziggy footage with the sound mixed well for once. I liked the fleeing footage of early Ziggy that was spliced in and I am sure it worked better like that than shown in full. I imagine it is a rough source.

    I think I would always go back to Cracked Actor, the Five Years docs, and then things like Musikladen and the Japanese 78 broadcast. I might bookmark half a dozen points in that two and a half hour film, but wouldn't want to endure the whole thing again.
     
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  2. brucewayneofgotham

    brucewayneofgotham Forum Resident

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    in retrospect
    some footage from the Jackson family stays
    would have been interesting
    They showed a small piece in her doc
    but in the aftershow interview
    Janet stated there is a lot of footage of DB
    at the house
    as he was a regular for a 5+ yr period
     
  3. footprintsinthesand

    footprintsinthesand Reasons to be cheerful part 1

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    To whom ? Watching DB hide under the table with Roger Moore making another house call in Switzerland would be way more interesting :agree:
     
  4. johnnyyen

    johnnyyen Senior Member

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    Generally, I thought it was fantastic. Where else can you hear Warszawa, Subterraneans, V2 Schneider, and Moss Garden in 5.1 Surround at a cinema near you? And an amazing live version of “Heroes” from Earls Court when he was at the peak of his creative powers. Yes, there are flaws. I couldn’t help thinking that is Brett Morgen aware the Ricochet film is not newly found footage, but rather an extra on the Serious Moonlight dvd which could be picked up a few years ago for around a tenner in HMV? He really overdosed on that one. I guess it fitted with the general philosophical theme of Bowie‘s narration, but I would have preferred more of the concert footage, and less of the cod philosophy, which I feel weighs the film down. Personally I would just have preferred the music to tell the story, rather than the endless philosophising. It seemed to go on forever, and Bowie tends to refute the whole thing when he marries Iman. Isn’t life great if you can bag a supermodel! Nietzsche and his ilk will only lead you down a dead end if you’re not careful. Therefore there’s another cut of the film; strip away all the Bowie voiceover, and replace it with the music, which tells the story far better. This can be an extra on blu ray disc one, with disc two including the complete Stage film. It’s a hit!
     
  5. CrawdaddySim1

    CrawdaddySim1 Forum Resident

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    Or it could be simply that it’s the name of a Bowie song… and makes a good film title. Sometimes the simplest explanation is the accurate one.
     
  6. Purple Jim

    Purple Jim Senior Member

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    Just back from seeing it. Well, it's a fast-cut, explosive toke of Bowie for sure (which is numbing after about half an hour). Too much of a mushy collage for my taste. It's like a 2 hour 20 minute trailer for what we'd actually like to see.
    What Bowie says all the way through is interesting but I know it already. I'll watch it again when it come to streaming or BBC probably but I won't need the DVD (unless it has a juicy bonus disc of new (uncut) live footage.
     
  7. TonyCzar

    TonyCzar Forum Resident

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    PhIladelphia, PA
    Private chuckle of the year: So the theater showing MD in Philly only has a box office and small lobby at street level. All the seats and screens are at basement level. Guess what amenity was busted and broke?

    The escalator.
     
  8. TonyCzar

    TonyCzar Forum Resident

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    This baby is closed-captioned to within an inch of its life. Every lyric - original or live ad-lib or new "Sound and Vision" - and every spoken comment, no matter how mumbled, is yours for the reading if your chosen theater offers one of these:

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    It mounts in your cup-holder, and the arm is almost infinitely bendy. I kept mine directly in front of my face all night but lowered as to stay below the bottom border of the normal-sized cinema screen.From previous experience, I've found that "off to the side" doesn't really work for me. It easily stayed below the bottom border of the normal-sized cinema screen. I couldn't imagine how I'd make use of it in an IMAX house. I counted precisely three things which were not captioned by the device: the two bits captioned in white right on screen (2 heavily accented fans from the 70s singing his praises, and the bit where he says "we" rockstars (him, Jagger) are not real and do not exist). I forget the third. But point is, there were reports here early on of difficulty hearing some of the wordy bits. Forget that!!
     
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  9. TonyCzar

    TonyCzar Forum Resident

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    Play Brett Morgen Jeopardy: In "Moonage Daydream", The Escalator make its first appearance during this song.
    " What is 'Wild Eyed Boy from Freecloud', the first song in the film?, Alex."
     
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  10. TonyCzar

    TonyCzar Forum Resident

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    Cough and you'll miss it, but Danny Kaye's version of "Inchworm" makes an audible (if distorted) appearance in the opening of "MD".

    Inchworm (song) - Wikipedia
     
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  11. audiotom

    audiotom Senior Member

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    New Orleans La USA
    I have seen MD twice in IMAX
    It looks like they are moving it to a standard screen
    How is the experience with a less immersive screen?

    It might be welcome
    My db meter app read 97 db avg and 102 db peak in a lot of the musical numbers
    I asked them to turn it down but they said they can not for an IMAX showing

    Also other than a few big songs they really stayed away from David’s hits and did deeper cuts
    Would havve liked to have seen more 70s
    Especially thin white duke era
     
  12. audiotom

    audiotom Senior Member

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    The elavators broke so he slides down the rope
    Onto the street below, oh Tarzan go man go
     
  13. TonyCzar

    TonyCzar Forum Resident

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    Mostly better - it's like bringing David Bowie to your neighborhood screen, rather than going to the place where they show all the Jurassic Park movies. But you do lose some detail, like the pilling on his shirt at Earl's Court.


    Just because something is NotMAX, doesn't mean it can't be played too loud. I took my earplugs out for a while this afternoon at a standard cinema,
    but the noise level (and not even during a musical number; while I can't remember precisely what was going on, it was adjacent to him introducing
    Brian Eno and playing with this keyboard toy) got to me and back in they went, before all those casual pix of Fripp, Eno, and DB in the studio were screened.

    I think it's in part to overwhelm the Talkers.Suits me fine, as long as I don't forget to bring plugs.
    It strikes me that a complete "Fame" would have been right up Morgen's alley.
     
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  14. FrixFrixFrix

    FrixFrixFrix Senior Member

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    Missed my chance to see it in IMAX due to a weekend trip out of town and subsequent COVID isolation :/

    Maybe I’ll be able to catch a regular screening before it leaves the theater.
     
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  15. TonyCzar

    TonyCzar Forum Resident

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    Also, too: "Rock and Roll with Me" from Buffalo '74 looked WORSE in IMAX: obvious macroblocking. So much so, that I thought Brett was Making a Point about Time and Mortality. Better in 4K on a regular screen.
     
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  16. TonyCzar

    TonyCzar Forum Resident

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    Oh God, how could I forget. Remember that bit in "Cracked Actor" when DB is getting a mask made, and when it comes off his face he starts calling out into the air for tissues? Yeah. No "tissues" in the closed captioning.
     
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  17. PES

    PES Forum Resident

    Funny comment on the younger generations reaction to Bowie. My youngest daughter, who's 34, saw Moonage Daydream with her friends last weekend. I asked her about her reaction to Bowie over the years. Surprisingly, she was not put out by any of the classic out-there Bowie outfits, like the Ziggy gear, the Rebel Rebel pirates costume, etc. No, the one thing she couldn't get behind was the sailor suit from the Stages tour. I didn't see that one coming.
     
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  18. TonyCzar

    TonyCzar Forum Resident

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    How could you miss dat ass in those pants?
     
  19. alexpop

    alexpop Power pop + other bad habits....

    Documentary?
    Felt it was a tad too long.
     
  20. Purple Jim

    Purple Jim Senior Member

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    90% of the film looked blurred, grainy and JPEGy on a regular screen!
    One thing that disappointed me from the outset was the shaky, hand-held camera on the crucial first shot of David singing the intro to Wild Eyed Boy. If it had been stabilised, it would have been far more powerful.
     
  21. Purple Jim

    Purple Jim Senior Member

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    Coming back to wat I said earlier, perhaps the live footage in this news report is from Earls Court 73 (seeing as it doesn't mention the split of the band):

     
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  22. Bink

    Bink Forum Resident

    I understand that footage was filmed in Bournemouth.
     
  23. johnnyyen

    johnnyyen Senior Member

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    Scotland
    One thing I noticed was the extra footage from the Russell Harty 1973 interview. I wonder if the archive has the complete show, because it would also mean a full version of the My Death performance, which has been presumed to be wiped. Also, I thought I noticed a brief clip from the Lift Off With Ayesha Starman performance, which is also considered to be wiped. It was difficult to tell, because it was so brief, but it looked to be of professional quality, in comparison to the rather rough quality of early Ziggy shows. I’m certain it wasn’t the TOTP version. I wonder if there is a complete version in the archive?
     
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  24. bluedemon25

    bluedemon25 Me, I'm Just A Lawnmower

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    united states
    It would be really nice if something like a bibliography or appropriate equivalent were made available for the sources used in this movie.
     
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  25. Barnabas Collins

    Barnabas Collins Senior Member

    Location:
    NH
    I saw Moonage Daydream yesterday, not at an IMAX but at an art house theater here in NH. I loved it. I get why many might be turned off by it as it really is an assault on the senses and it is kind of messy. But I've been thinking about the film ever since I saw it. I found it really uplifting and poignant. For nearly 2 and a half hours, it felt like David Bowie was still alive. When the film was over, I suddenly missed him terribly. I will definitely buy the blu-ray.
     

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