Do you have the correct/original inner sleeves into each LPs in your collection? Pics and history.

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  1. Giorgio

    Giorgio Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    Ahhrrrg...I didn't notice it and I didn't knew it was a CBS EU's inner, but I think you're right ... damn ...
    Are you able to tell me the correct inner for an original US copy of Abraxas?
     
  2. Giorgio

    Giorgio Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    Do you have the possibility to post a pic of the right one?
     
  3. Fat Bob

    Fat Bob Forum Resident

    I'm fairly sure that's a later EMI inner sleeve. I associate this design with the early 1980s. I can see a three digit code at the bottom of the sleeve. Is it a date code?
    I have this inner in my 'Alan Dell' Sinatra pressings from the mid 1980s. One has '284' printed on the bottom, meaning it was made in February 1984.
    And early Stiff LPs had a plain black inner sleeve with a die-cut hole for the label. Sadly my original copy of this Damned LP is long lost to a house fire, so I can't check for you.
     
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  4. Giorgio

    Giorgio Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    Very nice feedback, thanks!
    ...sadness for what happened to your home...
     
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  5. AaronW

    AaronW Senior Member

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    Sorry, I no longer have an original Abraxas on hand to check.
     
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  6. Mbe

    Mbe Forum Resident

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    Inner sleeve appears to be Jan 81 (181) with a purchase receipt date as October 81 (6 / 10 81).
     
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  7. lemonade kid

    lemonade kid Forever Changing

    Capitol inner sleeves often had the year on them, so Rubber Soul and Revolver for example had the years (1965 & 1966) above the small pics of LPs shown from the Capitol catalog...easy to see what sleeve goes where.
     
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  8. Giorgio

    Giorgio Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    If there is a date is "easy" of course...and, of course, the only Capitol inner I have is without a date ...I'm the usual lucky one, of course :p
     
  9. Raunchnroll

    Raunchnroll Senior Member

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    If your Lou Reed is indeed an early pressing (I can't tell from the photo) then the RCA sleeve would be identical to the one you show but lacking the small box of text printed on the backside. My earliest RCA sleeve with the 'text' is dated 3/75. Earlier pressings I have, Nilsson Schmilsson for example, had the plain RCA sleeve similar to the one you show.

    Santana Abaraxas and their 3rd LP sold millions. Practically every one I've seen used a square plain white paper inner -- fold over outside side seams - these commonly used by Columbia through the 70's.
     
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  10. Giorgio

    Giorgio Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    Yes, Transformer is a 1st UK FWIK, matrix 1E/1E and fully laminated cover...ok understood about its inner, thanks!
    Thanks also for the feedback on Abraxas :righton:
     
  11. Giorgio

    Giorgio Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    For the following UK queries, maybe Mr. @muffmasterh is the man, and I know also Mr. @Raunchnroll is very experienced ...of course every one of you who has info, or can provide a feedback is very very welcome :righton:

    - Fairport Convention, S/T, original 1968 UK red Polydor label, mono, matrix A ▽ 1 and B//2.
    Released date: 1968.
    This kind of polylined inner should be the right one, but I am a bit confused about what they seem two date codes on it: "/48" and "/119".
    What do they mean? April 1968...Novembre 1969?
    Obviously a inner cannot be dated simultaneously '68 and '69 ... there will be an explanation to this, maybe they are not date codes ...

    Help...help... :help:

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    About 1968 Polydor's inners, I have also the following:
    - Cream, Wheels Of Fire, original 1968 UK red polydor label, mono, matrix A ▽ 1/B ▽ 1/A ▽ 1/B ▽ 1.
    Released date: August 1968.
    Not the same type of inner as per the above Fairport's album, no date code here, all cornes are cropped, they are not polylined...so I have some doubts that they are the correct ones, but I have no others Polydor'68 albums for a comparison...
    Are they the right ones?
    What do you have in your copy?

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  12. Raunchnroll

    Raunchnroll Senior Member

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    The date code is 11 9 - November 1969. I guess they were still sending out monos of this album at that time.
    Sometimes the date codes have additional numbers to one side, which may be internal codes such the shop they were made at, the lot or run information, etc.

    The Cream Wheels - mono - usually have late 1968 thru 1969 date codes. The thin 'see-through' one you have is a very late 70's/early 80's sleeve, I usually found these in EMI product albums. The normal looking sleeve is mid-70's.
     
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  13. Giorgio

    Giorgio Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    So in cases like this inner, with two codes one behind the other, to know its date we have to take into account the one on the right, the last one... correct?
     
  14. Raunchnroll

    Raunchnroll Senior Member

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    Additional numbers may be on either side. Sometimes the date is only partly printed or illegible. Dating Polydor inners is also be done by the characteristics of the sleeve.
     
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  15. Canoli

    Canoli Forum Resident

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    03 73
     
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  16. Giorgio

    Giorgio Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    Eh...I was hoping it was easier to understand, especially when the date codes are present ... but it doesn't seem to be always like this, it takes a lot of experience, and I have little, I am grateful for your support!!

    So, for example: this polylined one with a big "Important Notice" box over the usual "Plastic bags can be dangerous" box, how should it be dated?
    There is also a code "1 05" ...but maybe it's not the right thing to look at here...

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  17. Man at C&A

    Man at C&A Senior Member

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    I've had two Damned original debut LPs through my hands, including my own copy. Both have the black die cut inner you describe and a fully laminated sleeve.
     
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  18. Brian Hoffman

    Brian Hoffman Obsessive fanatic extraordinaire

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    Interesting, so probably whatever shop it was in in '81 replace the sleeve with something else they had laying around. Good to know!
     
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  19. Mbe

    Mbe Forum Resident

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    I remember a boom for cheaper import pressings being sold through independent UK stores from late 70’s through the 80’s and beyond.
    One of these stores across the North of England would be Bostock Records which initially sold copies for at least halve the price of UK pressings.

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    Other members will probably have more information about this phenomenon :)
     
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  20. All Down The Line

    All Down The Line The Under Asst East Coast White Label Promo Man

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    A loss leader?
     
  21. Slick Willie

    Slick Willie Decisively Indecisive

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    Rolling Stones, Now!
    As mentioned earlier these UK pressed discs were sent in the below pictured sleeves and placed in US printed covers upon arrival.
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  22. Giorgio

    Giorgio Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    Welcome to this party Slick :)
    Yes, you are correct, as usual :thumbsup:
     
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  23. Slick Willie

    Slick Willie Decisively Indecisive

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    Whos Next
    Headhunter inner.
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  24. Slick Willie

    Slick Willie Decisively Indecisive

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    Transformer.
    RCA inner explaining the advantages of Dynaflex.
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  25. Giorgio

    Giorgio Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    Ehehe .... In this case you have been not very attentive, here is my post (#22) from few days ago on this topic, what do you think?
     
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