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Ebay Second Chance Pet Sounds

Discussion in 'Marketplace Discussions' started by Shakey, Nov 29, 2003.

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  1. Shakey

    Shakey New Member Thread Starter

    Location:
    Chicago, Illinois
    Greetings!
    Has anyone bid on something, lost and then later been offered this "second chance" via Ebay.
    I bid on Steve's DCC Beach Boys Pet Sounds yesterday only to be sniped at the very last second for the basic Ebay increment at the very last second, literally.
    Anyway I did a little research and the seller just sold the same item, sealed long box earlier this week, I'll PM anyone the name if needed, and started to get to wondering if this might be some sort of scam.
    The buyers seem legit but the last minute snipe combined with the seller's apparent inventory of this item started me thinking if this was on the up and up.
    Too many long-boxes sealed of the same item, just seems too coincidental.
     
  2. Dave

    Dave Esoteric Audio Research Specialistâ„¢

    Location:
    B.C.
    Terry,

    I understand your concern. However, I have heard that there is DCC stock being held by Ryko, Musicdirect, and Red Trumpet, so it could be legit. A tough decision indeed. Perhaps pay the seller by credit card so you are protected from fraud.

    I did have a seller make this same kind of offer to me because he didn't trust the sniper with questionable feedback. It worked out fine for me.
     
  3. poweragemk

    poweragemk Old Member

    Location:
    CH
  4. Alan T

    Alan T Forum Resident

    Location:
    Phoenix
    What do you mean?
    If it is near mint, $27 isn't a bad price for an original Pet Sounds. I would not want to listen to it but mint copies of original Beach Boys LPs are getting hard to come by.
     
  5. poweragemk

    poweragemk Old Member

    Location:
    CH
    It's not mono...thus, not interesting to me. YMMV!
     
  6. Dave

    Dave Esoteric Audio Research Specialistâ„¢

    Location:
    B.C.
    Terry, is the seller involved in your deal named thediggle? If so, I have just been hit by the seller. I received a similar email on an auction that was over about a week ago. It does seem kind of suspicious, but I will send the seller an email and see what's up after confirming from Ebay that they do use that email address.

    Oops! Apparently mine is a real auction: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2577504773
     
  7. Shakey

    Shakey New Member Thread Starter

    Location:
    Chicago, Illinois
    No, mine is a mailing from Ebay on behalf of the seller who has more than one of these, several it seems. That is what struck me, he responded to my question to seller regarding this and claims to have found a box of these sealed in his warehouse. Seems to be legit, but I can't bring myself to pay about $100.00 for this, Beach Boys Pet Sounds sealed in long box since I just want one to play, I am not a collector.
    Since you say some retail giants are holding back stock I just will hold tight.
    I'll find one at a reasonable price sometime.

    What really blew my mind was when I placed my bid last night, $99.99 at what I thought was the very last moment, I got a reply that I was the high bidder and there was no more time left to bid, 0hrs and 0minutes. When I went to MyEbay I found I had been had by one dollar. That really bothered me and I thought somehow the buyer and seller were conspiring, since my bid was over $30.00 above the next highest bidder. I thought I had finally sniped the snipers.
     
  8. Dave

    Dave Esoteric Audio Research Specialistâ„¢

    Location:
    B.C.
    Yeah, that's what happened to me as well except he actually posted another auction as I had bid on and lost the same CD last week for sale by him.

    I was able to get one (Pet Sounds, no long-box) for $28.50 back in August, you just have to be religious about searching everyday like I was and eventually there will be the one that doesn't get a lot of attention.

    You were most likely sniped by someones program that was set to 1 sec.
     
  9. floyd

    floyd Senior Member

    Location:
    Spring Green, WI
    I would be careful. It could be a seller flushing out your highest bid. If he is offering you the cd because of a problem with the sniper then you should get it for a dollar over what the next highest bidder UNDER you bid so something like $30 cheaper if that was the next highest bidder.
     
  10. floyd

    floyd Senior Member

    Location:
    Spring Green, WI
    Terry
    Just a bit of advice on your bid (please don't take this wrong) but bidding $99.99 on something is not wise, because someone bidding $100.00 could get it for a penny more. The high bidder only needs to outbid you by one cent to win as long as they bid more than the bid increment. Even bidding a cent or two over a round number is good. So to bid $100.01 will get the win over $100.00.

    I think though you can consider yourself lucky not to get it for that price. As Dave said just hunt around you will find one for a lot less.
     
  11. Shakey

    Shakey New Member Thread Starter

    Location:
    Chicago, Illinois
    I kinda think the same as you. Call me paranoid but it wouldn't be that hard to have some pals or fake accounts programmed to snipe then offer it to the person like me, the second highest bid for my offer.

    It seems plausible to me as this seller sold another, if it wasn't the same disc earlier in the week and when checking the bids I saw the winner won by the standard increment at the very last second.

    If I were a detective I suppose I might contact the second highest bidder and see if they were not offered the same second chance deal and find out if they bought it. If not, it might be just as I described or possibly as the seller says, he's got a lot of them he just found in his warehouse.

    As you point out the next highest bidder to me was $30.00 less so I passed.

    And your advice regarding 1) 99.99 vs 100.01 is appreciated as is the advice to wait and see, for a reasonably priced disc.

    I have a couple of sealed DCC CD's which I know some members like and will probably post a trade offer on the classifieds to see if I can swing a deal with our own. I could probably send them out to Ebay but it seems to me some people there are only turning them over for profit, not that there is anything wrong with that but I'd rather see if I can make this a win-win for me and another member.

    edit: I wrote the other runner-up winner in an earlier auction, same disc, same description and yes he was contacted by Ebay secondchance, but he bought it for his bid, again quite a bit more than the third bidder. He got the disc alright and he's fine with it but it smells fishy to me. He was sniped at the last second or so and this probably pushed his bid to his max, way beyond the next bidder.
    Another strange thing, the reply came not from the through Ebay's e-mail but from frauditors@***.*** which seemed weird to me. I put the asterisks in to protect the individual.
     
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