Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Dr. Robert, Jul 20, 2018.
me too since day one...getting a double Beatles album was glorious back then and still is.
Somebody else said the same... my reply on page 5, post 104...
I would agree with this except for the fact that it's basically just a repetitive 10-minute rhythm guitar riff with little if any lead guitar to speak of. I personally love good epic-length songs as long as they justify their length. This one could have justified its length if it had had an inventive guitar solo on top of it, but since it doesn't, it runs out of steam and the riff becomes redundant before it's half over.
wow, yes you know what now i come the think of it, London Calling is solid throughout all four sides, Graffitti and Exile have been mentioned but there is filler on them imho especially Exile but London Calling doesn't a great call.
No offence intended ...but how often do you actually sit through Rev.9?
none taken...whenever I play my CD I never pick and choose tracks...
The Who's Quad. Is the only double I can actually play start to finish and feel satisfied I had a true listening experience......carry on.
"Revolution 9" scared me to death when I first heard it in 1968, but something kept drawing me back to it. I now consider it a brilliantly constructed piece of musique concrete, comparable to similar sound collages by avant garde composers like John Cage, Edgard Varese, and Karlheinz Stockhausen. I never skip it. It wouldn't be the white album without it.
People seem to equate filler with 'lightweight' and this is not the case.
Boogie with Stu needs to be on P.G., because most of the surrounding tracks are very intense and emotionally draining if listened to with your full attention (as they should be). BGS allows a little respite from all that - which is why it's there. You'd miss it if it wasn't!
The same goes for the 'lesser' tracks on the White Album. And I'd agree that Revolution 9 absolutely justifies its place in the running order. I've never found it boring, even when I first heard it as a 14 year old.
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Renaissance - "Live at Carnegie Hall"
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Mellon Collie abs the Infinite Sadness
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IMHO, the "Underture" is 10 minutes of filler. Since Tommy is an operas of sorts, the "Overture" is OK but the "Underture" serves no other purpose than to fill out the album.
I agree that the story is preposterous but I love the music.
Sometimes something is so good that you just want to repeat it a few times.
Same here. I never skip any tracks. I listen to Revolution 9 every time I listen to the White Album.
But I like Revolution 9 anyway. I listen to John Cage, Karlheinz Stockhausen, Pierre Boulez, etc. just as much as I listen to anyone else.
Yeah, as I've pointed out here a number of times it seems particularly strongly influenced by Cage's Rozart Mix from 1965.
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If so, I got dibs on this one..........
OMG yes. Was just listening to Sandinista this week. Should have been a single album. Waay too much mediocre dub on there.
Yes, the problem, as I see it, is that it seems the practice of using the term "filler" always gets used to (inaccurately) describe one of three things:
1. Songs the listener simply doesn't care for (and there's no harm in this one).
2. Songs that are frivolous or light-hearted (heaven forbid).
3. Songs that are unorthodox or experimental for an otherwise "pop/rock" or Western-cultured based musical band.
This can be seen with the Beatles all the time. Whether it's the likes of "Yellow Submarine" or "Ob La Di, Ob La Da" (for category #2), or songs like "Love You To", "Within You, Without You" or "Revolution 9" (for category #3).
Everyone is perfectly free to not like the songs in question, but every one of the above are as essential as any other track that appears on their respective albums. If they were in any way "filler", they wouldn't be there. And they wouldn't be critical cornerstones of the respective albums in terms of intent.
I can't say I dislike it I just consider it part of the album...
is that what they mean by "non-fill"?...
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