Frank Zappa Mixdown Tape

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Wee_Dieter, Jul 25, 2022.

  1. Wee_Dieter

    Wee_Dieter Well-Known Member Thread Starter

    Location:
    San Antonio, TX
    Hi,

    I have some questions about a mixdown tape I have acquired. Here are the details:

    On the front of the box, it has 3 "10 track Tape Legend" pages:

    Top page: The title reads "Doug Lyon." It has several tracks listed.

    Middle page: The title reads "ZAPPA 20 OCT 65." The table has the following "Selections" (as written):
    "Anyway The Wind Blows"
    "Im So Happy I Could Cry"
    "Go Cry On Someone Shoulder"
    "Such A Fool"
    "I'm Not Satisfied 1-(2)"
    "I Ain't Got No Heart 1-2"
    "Love Of My Life"
    "Front Of Tape Trouble Coming Every Day"

    Bottom page: Title "Chuck Markulis." It has a few tracks listed.

    The label on the box states:
    Original Sound
    7120 Sunset Boulevard
    Hollywood, California 90046

    The tape and reel appear to be in great shape from my inexperienced perspective (clean, no smell, not sticky).

    Reel diameter is 10.375". The tape is about 1" wide, but I have not measured.

    Info printed on the box:
    "Magnetic Products Division 3M Company"
    "Scotch"
    "201"
    "Low noise"
    "1.5 mil Acetate 754-1063-090"

    My questions are:
    -- When each new page is added to the box, is the tape re-wound to the beginning and recorded over, or are the new songs simply appended to the end of the previous artist's recording? In other words, could this still retain early Zappa recordings?
    -- How do I preserve it in a normal residential environment?
    -- Does this have any value beyond cool factor?
     
  2. Jeff Kent

    Jeff Kent Forum Resident

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  3. Anthrax

    Anthrax Forum Resident

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    Date and location might indicate recordings circa or related to those found on the Joe's Corsage release. Just my speculation, though.
     
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  4. Johnny Formica

    Johnny Formica Forum Resident

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    Could you upload pics please?
     
  5. Vaultmeister

    Vaultmeister Forum Resident

    Yeah, I've messaged this person to engage and help him out. No response
     
  6. jawaka1000

    jawaka1000 Forum Resident

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    I'm glad to see you're still the Vaultmeister , Joe!
     
  7. idiot bastard

    idiot bastard Zappa nerd

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    FWIW Chuck Markulis was a record producer who co-owned Nite Records in the late 50s. The label signed doo-wop group The Gallahads and Markulis co-wrote their hit Lonely Guy, which came out on the Del-Fi label in 1960.
     
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  8. Wee_Dieter

    Wee_Dieter Well-Known Member Thread Starter

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    Vaultmeister, I've never actually participated in forums before, so I didn't know about the Inbox at the top of the page. Working on a reply there.
     
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  9. Wee_Dieter

    Wee_Dieter Well-Known Member Thread Starter

    Location:
    San Antonio, TX
    I'll try to post some photos shortly.
     
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  10. Wee_Dieter

    Wee_Dieter Well-Known Member Thread Starter

    Location:
    San Antonio, TX
    I will have to wait till after work to upload photos. Busy bee...
     
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  11. Wee_Dieter

    Wee_Dieter Well-Known Member Thread Starter

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    The middle page...[​IMG]
     
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  12. Wee_Dieter

    Wee_Dieter Well-Known Member Thread Starter

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    The middle page...
    [​IMG]
    I don't know how to get it to appear here, but you should be able to view in another tab.
    Please forgive my noobiness here.
     
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  13. KDubATX

    KDubATX A Darby Man Never Says When

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    I can’t ever get my pics to upload correctly either
     
  14. Joel Cairo

    Joel Cairo Video Gort / Paiute Warrior Staff

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    That's because you'll have to post them to a 3rd-party host, and then link to them.

    - Kevin
     
  15. Wee_Dieter

    Wee_Dieter Well-Known Member Thread Starter

    Location:
    San Antonio, TX
    Only the outer bit of the tape is rough. The rest looks smooth.
    I'm using imgur, also for the first time.
    [​IMG]
     
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  16. Wee_Dieter

    Wee_Dieter Well-Known Member Thread Starter

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    Diameter of reel. It appears to be dust on the side of the tape.[​IMG]
    Have to go for now.
    Thanks to all for your input so far...
    [​IMG]
     
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  17. BeatleJWOL

    BeatleJWOL Carnival of Light enjoyer... IF I HAD ONE

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    Once your image is on the imgur page, right-click and choose "copy image address", then paste THAT here as an image.
     
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  18. jb welda

    jb welda yellow eyed dog

    yep that would certainly look like some kind of master tape of some sort. Very interesting. I would love to hear whats on there.

    Someone said Joe's Corsage? Gonna look that one up.

    very kool reel you got there, I would try to make sure it got preserved and archived properly.

    jb
     
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  19. paulisdead

    paulisdead fast and bulbous

    That tape mold!! :eek:

    Joe "@Vaultmeister " Travers would be the guy to talk to about a tape like this. A multitrack from this early period is grail find.
     
    Last edited: Jul 29, 2022
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  20. Anthrax

    Anthrax Forum Resident

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    It's a nice little album if you enjoy the early early Mothers.
     
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  21. Vaultmeister

    Vaultmeister Forum Resident

    1inch 10track???? Now that’s an obscure tape format.
     
  22. PIGGIES

    PIGGIES Forum Resident

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    Looks like FZ's handwriting on the box.
     
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  23. Vaultmeister

    Vaultmeister Forum Resident

    On the track sheet? Definitely not
     
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  24. PIGGIES

    PIGGIES Forum Resident

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    I know where you’re coming from Joe, you’ve obviously seen it more than most “for real” there are aspects to it that look “FZ like”, the word “Fool” as in “How Could I Be Such A” looked like FZ’s hand, but written in a hurry.
    But you would know.
    Cheers :righton:
     
  25. idiot bastard

    idiot bastard Zappa nerd

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    Interesting to read Never On Thursday... Originally it was Never On Sunday... And ultimately, Take Your Clothes Off...
     
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