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Furutech NCF Clear Line AC Conditioner Owners: Your Results

Discussion in 'Audio Hardware' started by Jim0830, Jan 6, 2022.

  1. Jim0830

    Jim0830 Forum Resident Thread Starter

    There is a separate thread Furutech NCF Clear Line AC conditioner where users discussed this $250 device which seems to be too good to be true. There are some reviews in audiophile magazines or web sites but there are no scientific tests of this product ie: double blind A-B tests. The only proof is provided by anecdotal evidence from users have bought the device and actually auditioned it in their systems. Some users, myself include, have heard clearly audible results and have sung its praises. Others have bought the device and heard no difference in their systems. The purpose of this survey thread is to try to quantify the experiences of people who actually bought and tried this product out in their systems.

    My intent is this thread not hijack the discussions in the main thread referenced above. Please confine any additional comments here, if any, to general comments like: "It worked or didn't work for me". Reserve additional comments/discussions for the main thread which has more visibility.
     
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  2. Jim0830

    Jim0830 Forum Resident Thread Starter

    It had good results for me and I gladly kept it.
     
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  3. motorstereo

    motorstereo Forum Resident

    Location:
    Ct.
    Mine continues to work well for me.
     
  4. ellingtonic

    ellingtonic Forum Resident

    I've only had mine for a few days and have done some back and forth testing. It definitely does something in my system, everything seems a little enhanced including surface noise on LPs. I've also compared it to the Shunyata Defender which made my system seem a little darker (and I'm not talking about the background being blacker). The Furutech is like sprinkling a little pixie dust over the music. When I tried them both together it seemed like the Defender was cancelling out part of the sparkle from the Furutech. I'm going to continue playing with them a little, but right now I'm planning to keep the Furutech and probably sell the Defender.
     
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  5. Audiofan1

    Audiofan1 Well-Known Member

    Location:
    States
    Wow so it's come to this! Ok I'll play along just this once. has anyone got a second one yet since we know what one can do?
     
  6. ubiknik

    ubiknik Forum Resident

    Location:
    Chicago, IL USA
    This is what it's like for me, I have one plugged into a 4-way hospital grade outlet that feeds most of my system.
    The result has been very positive.
     
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  7. Hanks3

    Hanks3 Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Austin, Tx
    I picked one up today, and it's been running for about an hour and I'm impressed. Increased depth, tonality, weight, and focus apparent so far.
     
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  8. Lonson

    Lonson Just a Lucky So-and-so

    18 positives, and no troll yet. ;)
     
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  9. Jim0830

    Jim0830 Forum Resident Thread Starter

    Ssshh. There is strength in numbers. :)
     
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  10. Tony C.

    Tony C. Forum Resident

    Location:
    Portugal
    It would be of special benefit to members if you also would take the time to do a blind ABX test switching from one to the other. :D
     
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  11. motorstereo

    motorstereo Forum Resident

    Location:
    Ct.
    Probably not going to happen as I'm satisfied with my previous testing results. My plans now are for using them on the dedicated circuits for my amps. If I gain something there will be another one on the way. If not I plan on keeping the first one where it is now in the front end circuit and adding the 2nd one to a spare outlet on the back of my preamp. Switching both of them on and off simultaneously for a+b testing would not be easy.
     
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  12. Pastafarian

    Pastafarian Forum Resident

    It wouldn't help this thread as we'll just drop into the 'it can't be discussed' methodology of ABX testing.

    Someone will either, give it a chance to see what it does or they won't bother and a post about ABX, shouldn't alter that stance.
     
  13. Larry Seinfeld

    Larry Seinfeld Forum Resident

    Location:
    Philly Pa. USA
    *
    I heard positive results with this device and I am using it in my system.
     
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  14. Jim0830

    Jim0830 Forum Resident Thread Starter

    Glad to hear it, more importantly glad you hear it.
     
  15. Tony C.

    Tony C. Forum Resident

    Location:
    Portugal
    Apologies! I apparently should have included a /sarc ;)
     
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  16. Oliver Meyer

    Oliver Meyer In Audio Heaven Up Here

    Location:
    Virginia Beach
    Where are you purchasing this from. I’m not familiar with the websites I’ve found so far. Also does this have to be put in the outlet that shares with my power strip or does it have to go in the power strip. I don’t currently have any open spots so really the outlet is my only option.
     
  17. harby

    harby Forum Resident

    Location:
    Portland, OR, USA
    But yet you are correct. This is like a poll on the healing power of crystals on some echo chamber mommy board. You've got essential oil marketeers to hit the button for their product, the only people buying are ones that believe the hokum could work, and anyone that would do an honest evaluation with rigorous methodology staying far away.

    Then the unscientific "listening" myth spreads like a green circle drawn on the edge of a CD (which is preposterous nonsense to anyone who understands how CD's EFM encoding controls the low frequency bandwith); a miracle cure to those who's ears are "better" than the expertise that could have designed it.
     
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  18. TheVinylAddict

    TheVinylAddict ___The Enforcer___

    Well, never tried it, so can't vote (or troll) :) but from another angle, $249 sticker and looking at it makes me wonder how much that thing *truly* cost to make :).

    But if it really is a $249 magic wand that makes your system "sound better" heck maybe it's under-priced. I dunno.
     
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  19. Lonson

    Lonson Just a Lucky So-and-so

    Audiophile pricing is not necessarily tied to manufacturing cost, but then many other items aren't either--I worked a few years in the eyeglass industry and 300 t0 400 percent markup on items they purchased were passed on to customers, and the suppliers certainly marked up items to our stores and labs.

    As far as audiophile items go this is hardly among the most expensive, and I am sure it is carefully priced to tempt audiophiles to try one out.
     
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  20. TheVinylAddict

    TheVinylAddict ___The Enforcer___

    I'd agree with that, kind of making that point too above... many spend much more in attempts for small improvements.
     
  21. Lonson

    Lonson Just a Lucky So-and-so

    It's their/our money. Some people spend money on alcohol-seems sillier to me than on small audio improvements but I like to live and let live.
     
  22. motorstereo

    motorstereo Forum Resident

    Location:
    Ct.
    Inflation has hit these things pretty hard to. I paid $214 in November for my first one and now $250 seems to be the norm. Being a repeat customer I asked my vendor for a better price and sure enough he gave me the same $214 price on my 2nd one even though he's also up to $250. And just like the first one the 2nd one has also gotten lost in transport. Hopefully it'll be here tomorrow
     
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  23. Hanks3

    Hanks3 Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Austin, Tx
    Tweek Geek.

    It can go in either the strip or outlet on the same circuit. The results are different with both.
     
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  24. Oliver Meyer

    Oliver Meyer In Audio Heaven Up Here

    Location:
    Virginia Beach
    Thank you
     
  25. jonwoody

    jonwoody Tragically Unhip

    Location:
    Washington DC
    I got mine from Alfred Kainz at High End Electronics, he advertises on Audiogon great guy.
     
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