He or She never fulfilled their potential in your eyes..

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by frimleygreener, Mar 13, 2018.

  1. davebush

    davebush New Test Leper

    St. Catharines, ON
    Paul Westerberg
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  2. Hot Ptah

    Hot Ptah Forum Resident

    Kansas City, MO
    Jesse Winchester. I love his first album, and thought he was going to be huge. To me, the rest of his recorded output is good, and pleasant, but he never reached the heights I had predicted for him.

    William Hill. After composing a really good original song, which was very successful in front of the Memphis live audiences which heard it, he suddenly moved to Pittsburgh to take care of his ill mother, fell in love with a woman on his first day in Pittsburgh, and became a hard drug addict. His early promise was never fulfilled.

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  3. SITKOL'76

    SITKOL'76 Forum Resident

    Colombia, SC
    So everybody and their mama?
  4. manxman

    manxman Forum Resident

    Isle of Man
    Elkie Brooks.

    Starting her recording career as a soloist in 1964, she issued a blistering Ike & Tina Turner-style début 45 before moving in an orchestrated soft pop direction in an attempt to get a hit.

    She then joined Dada, which issued one interesting album that pulled in all kinds of different directions, with bits of prog, blues, folk and jazz and even some showtune influences. Dada then mutated into Vinegar Joe, which issued three decent but also quite patchy albums.

    When Vinegar Joe broke up, she started writing songs in earnest and gained a solo contract on the basis of four of her own songs. However, her solo début Rich Man's Woman, whilst beautifully recorded and featuring some good material, was quite anonymous, with every track being in a slightly different style. Album number two, Two Days Away, was her only solo LP to play to her strengths, being a lovely, languid bluesy set. However, it was also a short and rather slight collection, with only one self-written song.

    Her third solo LP Shooting Star offered plasticky funky rock and her fourth Live And Learn, whilst focusing on her bluesy strengths, was a bit too overblown for its own good. She subsequently focused on MOR cover versions, never returning to raw, stripped-down rock, rarely used her amazing voice to full effect and neglected her composing and keyboard skills.

    In short, she could have been Britain's answer to Janis Joplin, but ultimately she wasn't.
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  5. Chemguy

    Chemguy Forum Resident

    Any artist that got so lost in drugs that it hampered their ability to continue on their trajectory.
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  6. Etienne Hanratty

    Etienne Hanratty Forum Resident

    Kevin Ayers. Fantastic voice, stunningly original songwriter, just gave up, then came back with a fabulous album 15 years after his last, then clammed up for the last five years of his life.

    Jake Thackray-Just four albums, none between 1977 and his premature death.

    Scott Walker-I’ve no doubt he’s happy with the work he’s doing but I just want an album of proper songs or, failing that, more stuff like Farmer In The City.

    Amanda Palmer-2 great albums with the Dresden Dolls, one flawless solo album, one patchily excellent solo album followed by six years of sporadic self-indulgent cash ins.

    Luke Haines-He’s found a niche that works for him but from 1993-2009, he was writing songs that should’ve been anthems.

    David Westlake-Haines’ mucker In The Servants. Deserved to be massive. Became a solicitor instead.

    SOONERFAN Forum Resident

    Norman, Oklahoma
    Not a "he or she" but as a band, Gungs & Roses. They put out some great stuff but don't have much of a catalog compared to other classic bands like Sabbath, Zeppelin, Floyd, The Who, Thin Lizzy, etc. I could go on and on giving examples of great bands with huge and great catalogs. Guns & Roses were great but they fizzled out quickly.
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  8. PlushFieldHarpy

    PlushFieldHarpy Forum Resident

    Courtney Love.
    I remember Kurt Cobain quoted saying that her poetry would "change the world". Well, that didn't happen.
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  9. frimleygreener

    frimleygreener "It 'a'int why...it just is" Thread Starter

    united kingdom
    Kevin Ayers is a great shout..to many a complete mystery let alone an enigma.....and as an extra bonus the wonderful Ollie Halsall guests on some cuts..
  10. Django

    Django Forum Resident

    Dublin, Ireland
    Shea Seger
  11. john lennonist

    john lennonist There ONCE was a NOTE, PURE and EASY...

    IINM, Jeff Beck was/is a real pain-in-the-a$$ kinda guy, so I don't think a lot of talented people were lining up to work with him.

    Same thing's been said of the greatest guitarist I've ever seen live -- Shuggie Otis.

    Apparently pissed off everyone... bandmates, label execs, on and on.

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  12. Kristofa

    Kristofa I dream of wires

    Eugene, Oregon
    Jeff Buckley
    Matthew Jay
    Sinead Lohan

    Ray Wilson :hide:
  13. zen

    zen Forum Resident

    I'll add, Milton Brown.
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  14. lesterbangs

    lesterbangs Forum Resident

    Ryan Adams? Messed about? Gold? 29? Cold Roses? Easy Tiger? Cardinology? Prisoner?

    Messed about, he did not

    He moved on... you didn't
  15. Oatsdad

    Oatsdad Oat, Biscuits and Abbie: Best Dogs Ever

    Alexandria VA
    Oh, I'd have to disagree. Elvis put out a bunch of true classic albums - I mean, that 1977-1982 run was just phenomenal, and he's done some very good work since then.

    I get your point about lost focus and an "Elvis of all trades" approach for the last 20 years or so, but he still definitely lived up to his potential - he just didn't maintain that level.

    But who does?
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  16. Oatsdad

    Oatsdad Oat, Biscuits and Abbie: Best Dogs Ever

    Alexandria VA
    While I agree his death was tragic, I think it's hard to claim Lennon didn't live up to his potential.

    Being in the Beatles means you lived up to your potential - unless you honestly think that a post-1980 John was going to release material superior to the work he'd done from 1962-1980...
  17. Oatsdad

    Oatsdad Oat, Biscuits and Abbie: Best Dogs Ever

    Alexandria VA
    Seems like some people are confusing "making classics forever" with "living up to their potential".

    I mean, Prince didn't live up to his potential? Yes, he was extremely erratic after 1988 or so, but good God, the run of albums before that defines "living up to potential".

    Again, unless you think he could've/should've done better than "Purple Rain" and "Sign" and the rest.

    Every artist peaks and then declines - it's just not possible to stay at an "A+" level forever...
  18. MarcS

    MarcS Forum Resident

    Oradell NJ
    Emitt Rhodes-never lived up to early promise; Sandy Denny, Roger McGuinn & Ben Folds all had very frustrating post band careers and special merit to Roy Wood who has been promising a new album for 30 years.
  19. vanhooserd

    vanhooserd Forum Resident

    Alex was just a hard guy to figure out. Had success at a very young age with the Box Tops but felt burned by the business. Put a lot into Big Star but also seemed ambivalent about that & just about everything else. Just a misfit maybe, but I sure miss him.
  20. vanhooserd

    vanhooserd Forum Resident

    First one I thought of.
  21. OptimisticGoat

    OptimisticGoat Taking the Great Leap Forward

    I disagree here. Yes, there is an apparent patchiness to his material. If you listen to a new Adams album you are probably going to like 1-5 tracks straight up... the rest meh. But if you listen 5 times you will like 8 (or some will drop out and you will still like 5). At that level he is really consistent and there is no way the good stuff would fit on 2 cdrs. I am glad he is releasing stuff and not just letting it sit. When he is done it will be an awesome discography and he will be recognised as an underappreciated artist.
  22. Brian Kelly

    Brian Kelly 1964-73 rock's best decade

    Liz Phair-sold out with the Hillary Duff sounding "Why Can't I"and has never recovered.

    The Strokes-debut album was huge-but they've been pretty spotty ever since

    Emitt Rhodes and Mike Brown (Left Banke) are two good examples of incredibly gifted individuals who peaked early and never reached the levels they should have.

    And of course you have those who died before their time. Nick Drake would be my top pick in this area.

    And then you have Syd Barrett. His work on PIPER AT THE GATES OF DAWN is among the most amazing and original work ever created, but sadly chemical, personality, and mental issues kept him from ever surpassing that high point.
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  23. dougb222

    dougb222 Forum Resident

    Hard for me not to confuse "not living up to potential" with "not achieving appropriate level of success".

    For the former, I'd submit Ambrosia, who had one of the finest debut LPs of the '70s imho. Their 2nd is quite good, and then....MOR hell.

    (For the latter, so therefore not really relevant to the thread, I'd say 10cc.)
  24. Instant Dharma

    Instant Dharma Elliptical Envelopment

    East Bay, Ca
    Danny Kirwan
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  25. robcar

    robcar Forum Resident

    Denver, CO
    Trouble is, I don't know that she is much of a songwriter. Her brother Mike is a brilliant songwriter -- virtually a poet. The combination of her voice and his words is what has always made the CJs so brilliant.
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