SH Spotlight Hey gang, guess what? Some of your most favorite albums in the world use tape dubs as masters..

Steve's comment about the Abraxas dub is very surprising to me. That's my favorite part of the album, which is a really well recorded album. Wow.

 

"A Day in the Life" first appeared without the fade-in in the late 80's on the soundtrack to the "Imagine: John Lennon" film. On the "Blue Album", the fade-in was present from the time of its original release until it was revised sometime in the 1990s. Someone may know more, but it didn't sound like a remix when it first appeared that way. Perhaps it was the original "pre-blended" master as it did seem to sound a bit "cleaner" than it had before.

They either removed a generation by doing that, or added another by blending (actually editing) the clean intro onto (a copy of) the Pepper master, because they werent going to do any editing to the Pepper master itself.

 

Wouldn't doubt a lot of their material is 2nd or 3rd gen "masters" because much of those Core 7 albums are cloudy sounding as hell. The 1973/74 "This Is" remixes are an improvement, though.

 

That's @Steve Hoffman he's referring to.

So little experience for that Hoffman guy... only mastered / remastered about 1,000 albums.

 

Do we really need another Beatles thread so soon?

 

Now, I'm *really* curious about any exceptions; ones you actually enjoy!

Taking a wild stab but I'd say the first 3 songs on Sgt Pepper? It'd be odd to hear those tracks with zero transitions nor audience noise.

 

In fact David Gilmour talked about that the last time DSOTM was remastered from earlier-Gen tapes.

 

As I indicated above, the clean intro was saved at the end of the reel.

The one where he conflated session tapes with the stereo masters?

 

It doesn’t bother me at all, I love it when songs blend together. Where would Dark Side Of The Moon be without dubs?

 

Billy Shears!

 

It is a well recorded album. It would be only a few seconds at that transition where they used tapes a generation down of the two songs.

 

I purchased that supremes original masters (it said)
Motown put out a few of these in the early cd days. Four tops etc
One of the worst sounding cds ever.

 

Steve, is it just because of the loss of a generation that you don’t like segues, or, do you hate having overlapping songs? Are you fine with it them on digital recordings?

Segues are my favorite thing on albums. Song sequencing, spacing, not spacing are what make an LP to me.

 

Well, if it bothers you, then go elsewhere.

 

It sounds very good, but considering the amount of tape hiss you can hear right at the beginning, I would say those 2 songs are a dub from 2 previously mixed songs.

 

I believe that was in the same filmed interview, yes

 

GOOD catch.

 

Makes logical sense - the movie industry has generally done that when handling dissolves in the negative, long before magnetic tape became standardized, so I can see that practice migrating into the recording industry.

 

Misread the header, thought it was a noob, my acknowledged mistake on that one line. We’re we have different experiences on the matter.

 

They are not wall to wall dubs, the transitions are edit packages.

 

I always thought those were just splices. "Biiiii-llyyyy Sheeeaaars!" along with the descending solo guitar could be one edit of its own, separate from the songs to either side; then "With a Little Help from My Friends" begins right when Ringo starts singing, and ends with a hard cut when the Lowrey organ comes in for "Lucy".

 

I can’t remember if the US 80’s single of a day in the life ( b side to sgt pepper) had the fade in

 

I think an aversion to cross-fades* is related to a preference for discrete, independent songs. Cross-fades are a specific album technique, and I don't believe there are many cases where a cross-fade was not ultimately the artist's intention. You might get a clean version for the single, but the fade is there to advance the album experience.

* And the aversion to fade-outs.

 

I guess the Moody Blues is one big dub step

 

Yes, I understand that.