Interconnect cables needed

Discussion in 'Audio Hardware' started by sgb, Feb 18, 2002.

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  1. sgb

    sgb Senior Member Thread Starter

    Location:
    Baton Rouge
    I need some help in selecting a set of quality interconnects for my new Marantz SA-14 that will be arriving any day now. In my current setup, I am using Fulton Musical Industries interconnects between my present SCD-C333ES (which will remain in my system) and between my amp and preamp.

    I have always been partial to the sound of these interconnects, but seeing as they have not been available for nearly fifteen years, I am forced into buying another pair. I have had the opportunity to compare the Fultons to the Top-of-the-line Harmonic Technology cables which, to these ears, sounded a little thinner and brighter than real life, and not as good as the Fultons overall.

    I must also say that while I believe cables do make subtle differences in the way things sound, I'm not really ecstatic about spending hundreds of dollars for something that offers only marginal improvement from one model to another. So, how about it? What's out there that is clean, smooth and dynamic without costing an arm and a leg?
     
  2. Metralla

    Metralla Joined Jan 13, 2002

    Location:
    San Jose, CA
    sgb,

    What is your price range? At around $300 I'd recommend the Coincident ICs. These are very well made, a nice sweet sound, though perhaps slightly dark when compared to the best. If you don't mind a fairly opinionated fellow, check out www.high-endaudio.com for a recommendation of the Coincidents. One thing about these ICs is the connectors are very solid and the cord is stiff for about 6", so you need rear clearance. Sometimes you can get the Coincidents new through AudioGon for $260.

    If you could afford $500-600 then Bob Crump (TG Audio) is your man. TG Audio is a one-man band in Houston, and Bob makes the cables pretty much himself. He will burn them in before you get them. You know that when you buy from Bob that most of your money has gone into the materials and labour costs, not to support a large marketing campaign, store front, executive wash room etc.

    I don't have Bob's ICs but I have 4 of his power cords. He's a stand-up bloke.

    If you are a DIY guy, you can save a lot of money by making ChrisVH's silver interconnects. I've been thinking of these for quite some time.

    Another possibility would be a kit from Allen Wright in Germany - www.vacuumstate.com

    Regards,
    Metralla
     
  3. Dave

    Dave Esoteric Audio Research Specialist™

    Location:
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    I myself have tried a few different IC's in my system and the one that wins everytime is Kimber KS series, no comparison, but not that cheap either. Just MHO.;)
     
  4. sgb

    sgb Senior Member Thread Starter

    Location:
    Baton Rouge
    Well...

    I was hoping that someone would say they found an interconnect that retailed for less than $100 that let them see God, Metralla. I surfed around on the site you listed but couldn't find the Coincidents... Liked his list of recordings though.

    Dave, how much are these Kimbers?
     
  5. Dave

    Dave Esoteric Audio Research Specialist™

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    OK,

    Are you running tubes or SS?

    What kind of music is your main listening?

    I can't tell you unless I know these 2 answers.
     
  6. sgb

    sgb Senior Member Thread Starter

    Location:
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    I'm a tube kind of guy. They have that certain je ne sais quois that offers just a tad closer sense of being there.

    As I noted in the music link, I listen to just about everything. Right now the 333ES's carousel is loaded with, Famous Blue Raincoat, Yardbird Suite(disks 1 & 2), The Artistry of Theresa Perez, and As Time Goes By, which has become my all-time favorite.
     
  7. Andrew

    Andrew Chairman of the Bored

    Kimber

    Does Kimber Kable still make the PBJ interconnect? I have it all over my system. Good sound for not much $$$.
     
  8. pigmode

    pigmode Active Member

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  9. Dave

    Dave Esoteric Audio Research Specialist™

    Location:
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    Allright. Fasten your seatbelt!

    My recommendation would be for the Kimber KS-1020's because they are a silver/copper combination (silver for the speed required for tubes and copper for the complete bass response).

    Price is $400.oo US. 1/2 meter and $600.00 US. for a meter.

    FYI I've compared these babies to Coincident, Transparent, Van Den Hule, MIT, Monster, and a few others I can't remember right now.

    You might want to save a few$ and try the "Silver Streaks" as they're very good as well

    I'm not brave enough to try DIY.

    Yes they still make the PBJ as well as Hero
     
  10. pigmode

    pigmode Active Member

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    Ahhh, the Select. Do they have a bright sound?
     
  11. Dave

    Dave Esoteric Audio Research Specialist™

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    Pigmode,

    Define bright for me.

    They are super revealing in all ranges though.
     
  12. sgb

    sgb Senior Member Thread Starter

    Location:
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    *super revealing* kinda scares me, Dave. The last *super revealing* system I heard just about ripped the ears right off my face. Don't know if it was the Krells, the Grand Slamms or both.
     
  13. pigmode

    pigmode Active Member

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    bright=treble induced fatigue
     
  14. Dave

    Dave Esoteric Audio Research Specialist™

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    Pigmode,

    It depends on the mastering totally! Steve's recordings and most MFSL's don't cause treble fatigue at all.;)
     
  15. cadillacjack

    cadillacjack Forum Resident

    Location:
    Sutton, Ma
    I know that cables are very system dependent and with that said
    the best cable I have used (and best value also) is the Homegrown Super Silver $89.95 plus free ship in USA. I had previously used PBJ and Straightwire Maestro, no slouches either. I was amazed at the clarity and smoothness I acheived, not to mention excellent bass response. THe more expensive Silver Lace
    is next on my list. Great values.
     
  16. Dave

    Dave Esoteric Audio Research Specialist™

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    cadillacjack,

    Are those cables that you're using straight silver or silver/copper?
     
  17. cadillacjack

    cadillacjack Forum Resident

    Location:
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    Dave,


    There are all silver. You have a 30 day money back guarantee. No risk in trying. The biggest improvement is the smoothness. Gets rid of a lot of harshness. And this is using a probably not the greatest Marantz 2235. The difference is not subtle.

    Cadillacjack
     
  18. Dave

    Dave Esoteric Audio Research Specialist™

    Location:
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    Cadillacjack,

    Now you've got my interest as the only time I've used pure silver I found that they weren't as revealing as my Kimbers and lacked a lot in the bottom end, mind you I'm running Classe' SS. Hmmm..

    The audiophile plot thickens........;)
     
  19. Gary

    Gary Nauga Gort! Staff

    Location:
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    Dare we ask what Steve H uses? He might be able to recommend a set for each type of amp since he has quite a collection for his remastering process!
     
  20. Steve Hoffman

    Steve Hoffman Your host Your Host

    Location:
    Los Angeles
    Wire? Geez. Companies send me a lot of stuff. Some is too bright, some too this, some too that, etc. When I want a totally neutral wire, I bring out my Bell Telephone/Western Electric designed 1933 stuff, still in use today at many companies as their bottom o' the line. Gives me what I want without frills, and, as most of your favorite records were made with it, it has a nice "average" sound.

    I think (for example) that Legacy's "Lattice" interconnect is strictly Bell Telephone designed wire. Very nice stuff, and cheap too. Might be on the Legacy Speakers website, dunno.
     
  21. Metralla

    Metralla Joined Jan 13, 2002

    Location:
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    sgb,

    Coincidents ...

    Click on Recommended Components - that will take you to www.high-endaudio.com/index_ac.html . Go to the bottom of this long page then search backwards for "CABLES-INTERCONNECTS-PHONO SIGNAL"

    Also you could go to Coincident Web Site for more info.

    Regards,
    Metralla
     
  22. sgb

    sgb Senior Member Thread Starter

    Location:
    Baton Rouge
    Now we're talking my kind of price! What's the URL for Homegrown?
     
  23. cadillacjack

    cadillacjack Forum Resident

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  24. mazort

    mazort New Member

    Location:
    San Antone
    Interconnects

    I dig the Silver Audio Appassionata. $700 and worth every cent. Solid silver Litz, hand-made, with custom locking WBT connectors. These are works of art and sound like it.

    IT MAKES A DIFFERENCE.

    Silver Audio is a small California-based company and you're paying for their wire, not a lot of marketing.

    Max (the owner) answers the phone himself.

    www.silveraudio.com
     
  25. sgb

    sgb Senior Member Thread Starter

    Location:
    Baton Rouge
    Thanks, mazort. An audiophile buddy of the past 30 years recommended these very same cables to me some time ago, but $700 is a little out of my league.

    Since I posted this request for info a few weeks back, thanks to a couple of friends who've loaned me some of their favorites, I've had an opportunity to try several different interconnects (none as expensive as these, though).

    Some wise poster above did mention that the results are system dependent, and that's certainly the case here, as I wasn't pleased with any of the results. :(
     
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