Interesting selling policy....but why?

Discussion in 'Marketplace Discussions' started by peterC, Nov 13, 2003.

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  1. peterC

    peterC Aussie Addict Thread Starter

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  2. KeithH

    KeithH Success With Honor...then and now

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    Peter, that's weird. Never seen that one before. It would take a lot of work to determine that bidders are also sellers and then do not sell internationally. If the guy has that much time on his hands to do that research, then he needs a hobby. Maybe he should get a dog or something. :)

    Note that he also put this on his auction page:

    If I were selling on eBay, I would obviously want to avoid deadbeat bidders. I can understand the seller's position here. However, I try to avoid sellers who carry on with threats on their auction pages. Unfortunately, family members die; things happen unexpectedly. I would hope that if the high bidder had an impeccable rating and told the seller that he could not pay immediately, but say within a week due to an unforeseen circumstance, that the seller wouldn't fly off the handle and bad-mouth the bidder all over eBay.
     
  3. peterC

    peterC Aussie Addict Thread Starter

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    Keith, yes I agree.

    Surprisingly he has never received or given negative feedback, so it's not as if he has been stung in the past!
     
  4. pdenny

    pdenny 18-Year SHTV Participation Trophy Recipient

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    On a (barely) related topic: how does one pull the Muze data like that? Is there some automated service to provide it or is the seller just copying and pasting w/HTML into his item description? Thanks for any light shedding!
     
  5. TSmithPage

    TSmithPage Ex Post Facto Member

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    Re: Re: Interesting selling policy....but why?

    I haven't sold anything on ebay lately but understand that the Muze data is offered as a new service to listers on ebay. As has been noted in the Classified forum, there are several kinks in the service that have resulted in numerous misleading listings, with the Muze infor purporting that the seller is offering a DCC gold CD when one never existed or the seller was not actually selling a gold CD.
     
  6. Dave

    Dave Esoteric Audio Research Specialist™

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    Ok guys, I understand your apprehension with this seller. I have already spoken to him myself. The seller is in my country and is tired of not being able to buy, from mainly US. sellers, Internationally. I have experienced this frustration myself and my feedback is perfect. So that's why that particular statement.

    As for the "threat"...I have seen many a seller say that deadbeats will be reported to Ebay and this is no different IMHO. He's just willing to go an extra mile if you screw him. So what. Should I not buy from any seller who says they'll report me to Ebay if I don't pay?
     
  7. Scotian

    Scotian Amnesia Hazed

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    Also, you can expect me to warn other sellers of auctions that you’re bidding on.


    This is called auction interference & can get you kicked off of eBay permanently.
     
  8. Dave

    Dave Esoteric Audio Research Specialist™

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    Thanks Scotian, good point. (Happy belated Birthday BTW) You mean people actually do this? Sheesh, I thought the seller was just talkin'. :rolleyes:
     
  9. Scotian

    Scotian Amnesia Hazed

    I had a promo CD wallet with "Dave Matthews Band" embossed on the bottom of it. Inside was an in-store sampler CD of some of his greatest hits. I stuck it on eBay & within a couple of days it was up to about $50. Then I got an e-mail from this idiot saying he had e-mailed all the people bidding on it & told them that they could buy the same thing from his Dave Matthew's website for $24.99. This was untrue since this item was a records store promo only item. He went on to tell me I was a dishonest seller & that the people bidding on my item were idiots.

    I e-mailed eBay's customer service & told them about it. They asked me for the original e-mail (which was through "Ask seller a question") which I sent to them. Within a couple days I got an e-mail back from them saying disciplinary action had been taken.

    I don't know how much, if at all this hurt my auction but I got close to $70 for the item & I was pretty happy with that. But it left me shaking my head.
     
  10. TSmithPage

    TSmithPage Ex Post Facto Member

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    Given how ebay is, you're lucky they didn't cancel your auction for the unauthorized sale of a promotional item...
     
  11. Sckott

    Sckott Hand Tighten Only.

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    He's right. I'm having problems with too many people that seemly bid for gaming reasons... Then they don't want to pay or respond to email.

    So, you're going to close your transaction, put a "negative" comment on their profile only to find out that's exactly what they're going to do.

    I have to admit; I'm a bit upset with this "Bid and screw" crap.
     
  12. Dave

    Dave Esoteric Audio Research Specialist™

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    I do agree with you Sckott. It really bites when the other kids don't play nice in the sand-box. It's so Cat & Mouse with Ebay now. Sellers holding good buyers feedback until they receive theirs and buyers playing some ridiculous game through bidding and not paying. All I can say is thank goodness for sellers like Scotian, whom I have bought from and is a first-class guy, and buyers like us.
     
  13. AudioEnz

    AudioEnz Forum Resident

    As someone who lives outside of the US of A, I share this frustration. What's so hard about putting an airmail sticker on, for chrissakes?
     
  14. Dave

    Dave Esoteric Audio Research Specialist™

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    I hear you Michael, but I have heard of people who have been screwed on International sales. Personally I've had waaaay over 150 purchases from US. sellers and only 3 weren't perfect. One I never received and the other 2 weren't up to snuff condition-wise, still, not enough to warrant me denying International transactions. Seems a little on the up-tight side to me. At least these auctions aren't the majority, but it does suck when there's one that you really want and can't buy because of this.
     
  15. Gary

    Gary Nauga Gort! Staff

    I saw that, too.

    I just think he was denied buying from the USA or somewhere and this is his "revenge".

    I can relate to that.

    On the other hand, I've boughe some real bargoons that were outside of the USA. Shouldn't mention that, though.... it's a secret. ;)

    Gary

    :D
     
  16. AudioEnz

    AudioEnz Forum Resident



    And I've heard of people who have been screwed selling within the USA. If you sell to notorious scam countries (yes, I am talking about Indonesia) then you will face problems. But selling into Canada, Europe (most), Australia and New Zealand will be no more problem than selling within the USA.



    I've bought over 20 items on eBay from US vendors and all have arrived safely (still waiting on three which are due any day now). I've had one where the vendor didn't send the CD for 2 weeks and one where the "mint" CD had some scuffs and a folded cover.

    There's one eBay vendor who posts something like this:
    "No international shipping. THAT MEANS NO SHIPPING OUTSIDE OF THE USA. You will receive negative feedback if you bid without a US shipping address."

    Unfortunately he's had a few DCC disks to sell.
     
  17. -=Rudy=-

    -=Rudy=- ♪♫♪♫♫♪♪♫♪♪ Staff

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    OK, so shoot me...I usually only sell to US bidders. After my last argument with the post office (basically, me practically yelling at the a-hole clerk for being an arrogant d*ckhead, which I did in front of customers lined up to the door :thumbsup: ), I don't really want to go back there. I can ship and print postage from home without any special stickers or needing to go into the post office. It ships fast, and my postage is accurate. The carrier takes it when she stops by. Also saves me standing in line when I have an antsy kid or two with me. :sigh:

    HOWEVER, if any of you here in the forum were to bid, drop me an e-mail and let me know. For friends I'll do it. :) I'll just have to drive a ways to go to an out-of-town post office. I rarely sell music anyway, and like the last batch I sold last week, they were those horrid CBS Mastersound LPs...wouldn't wish those on anyone here. ;)
     
  18. peterC

    peterC Aussie Addict Thread Starter

    Location:
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    The point about this guy though is that he will sell to international bidders but won't accept bids from people who don't, as sellers, sell internationally.

    Very twisted man!
     
  19. mal content

    mal content Guest

    Nothing. But: I can ship domestically from branch post offices; international means time off work to stand in line at the main post office. Many foreign buyers (probably at leat a quarter of them) ask me to falsify Customs documents and/or mark item as "Gift" to avoid duty. I'm still getting this after adding that I don't do that to the tail of my listings. And I have a fair amount of foreign bidders who want to use payment methods other than those clearly listed in my terms (to be fair that's a problem domestically as well). As usual, the chumps spoil things for everybody.
     
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