Iron Maiden Remasters

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by old school, Mar 11, 2012.

  1. john morris

    john morris Everybody's Favorite Quadron

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    I assume the analog tapes were transferred in England. The record company used the best tapes that were on hand. Some might be masters,other albums were.made from copy tapes. The engineer transferred these to a Sony PCM 1610. After much a do the final albums would be on 1610 3/4 Umatic video tapes. The 1610 digital master would have all the: edits, tricks and pops removed, eq (if necessary) and the track numbers (sub data). The engineer would now make the numerous digital copies to send off to the affiliate labels. This could be as many as 12 tapes easy.

    So there can be only one master for a CD. A engineer in Australia, Hong Kong (pre 1998), West Germany or America gets the same tape.
    However, this doesn't stop an engineer from making a new digital master for cassette duplication. But why? Tape isn't vinyl. There is need to reduce the bass or treble.
     
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  2. rock4ev

    rock4ev Forum Resident

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    The way I see (and hear) it (in most/many cases) is that whatever the manufacturing plant does with what's given to them, and also the equipment used as well.
    This has nothing to do with there being different mastering (not going to open that can, there are obviously).
    What I am trying to say (ask/confirm, and w/o arguments) is if any of us with an identical copy/pressing/format (even if we all passed it to the next after use) were to use to make a to market/commercial availability or a physical copy for self, I believe the equipment/materiel used to do so anywhere in the line of process in producing/making this will yield in minor to not minor sound to finished product. And who (aside from engineer/maker) really knows what they may or may not did or do when they made the final product/s as well.


    Cheers
     
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  3. Gus Tomato

    Gus Tomato Stop dreamin’ and start drivin’ Stevie!

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    The 1996 ‘Best Of The Beast’ comp was a decent remastering of the old material wasn’t it?
    Simon Heyworth at Chop Em Out (like the 98’s) and Murray Harris / I wonder if that was Dave n’ Steve?
     
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  4. Anthrax

    Anthrax Forum Resident

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    At least those 90s Kiss remasters sounded pretty good.
     
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  5. Anthrax

    Anthrax Forum Resident

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    And what's worse, many fans believe that too.
     
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  6. AirJordanFan93

    AirJordanFan93 Forum Resident

    As did the '14 Hi-Res versions. But other than that they have done very little with their catalogue as well.
     
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  7. sandimascharvel

    sandimascharvel Forum Resident

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    Very interesting information, thank you. With Killers though, and a very select few of my other favorite artist’s albums, for whatever reason, different mastering or different master tapes got used for a particular pressing in a particular country. One example: Kiss' Dressed to Kill where all Japan CD's before 1997 used a different mastering from a different source tape. It's different from all other original Dressed to Kill CD releases in every other country. When they sneak stuff like this, the differences can be significant. Keeps things fun when you find out about something like that.
     
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  8. sandimascharvel

    sandimascharvel Forum Resident

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    Love those 2014 Hi-res versions. They did a great job on those, at least the 1974-1981 albums which are my faves. Too bad Maiden didn't do their Hi-res as well.
     
  9. ArpMoog

    ArpMoog Forum Resident

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    The UK sounds like my UK record.
    I own both UK and US runs both record and cd up to 7th. Brighter punchier clearer. Better tapes sounds like the ticket.
     
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  10. john morris

    john morris Everybody's Favorite Quadron

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    No argument there. Remember how the orginal 1965 stereo mix of Rubber Soul was in the first pressings of the Canadian 1987 CD? It shocked me when I heard it. No doubt they were sent the wrong tapes. But that would have to mean that the engineers at Abbey Road had transferred the original 1965 stereo mix of Rubber Soul to digital. Wild eh?! Someone should right a book about this stuff. My new found Diabetes has left me with severely blurred vision. No writing books for me. Now I just hit into walls. :biglaugh:
     
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  11. john morris

    john morris Everybody's Favorite Quadron

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    (In the distressed voice of Eric Cartmen from South Park) Noooooooooooo!!
     
  12. john morris

    john morris Everybody's Favorite Quadron

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    Best of the Beast was 1998. Just as loud
    But I will check my CD. You could be right.
     
  13. The Hud

    The Hud Breath of the Kingdom, Tears of the Wild

  14. john morris

    john morris Everybody's Favorite Quadron

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  15. john morris

    john morris Everybody's Favorite Quadron

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  16. The Hud

    The Hud Breath of the Kingdom, Tears of the Wild

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  17. john morris

    john morris Everybody's Favorite Quadron

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  18. john morris

    john morris Everybody's Favorite Quadron

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  19. The Hud

    The Hud Breath of the Kingdom, Tears of the Wild

    Maybe that is when you bought it.
     
  20. john morris

    john morris Everybody's Favorite Quadron

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    Some light mastering EQ could be the reason the copy in question sounds better.
     
  21. The Hud

    The Hud Breath of the Kingdom, Tears of the Wild

    I know that "Virus" is much quieter than the other tracks. Always annoyed me.
     
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  22. john morris

    john morris Everybody's Favorite Quadron

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    Could be.....Can't remember though. Probably.
    Unfortunately it doesn't have the FLIGHT OF ICARUS on it. Damn!
     
  23. The Hud

    The Hud Breath of the Kingdom, Tears of the Wild

    Strange. While I prefer Where Eagles Dare, I am pretty sure there is room to add Flight of Icarus on the 2CD set.
     
  24. Gus Tomato

    Gus Tomato Stop dreamin’ and start drivin’ Stevie!

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  25. el supernautico

    el supernautico A traveller of both, time and space

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    Oh, they did - they sourced the 2015 Remasters from them!:biglaugh:
    BUT looking at the waveforms reveal clean cuts in the bottom and top area, meaning you technically get hi-rez files with:
    a) nothing in the lower and higher spectrum that would do the format's available frequencies any justice
    b) a sound and a compression exactly as on the 2015 remasters

    I can tell you, I was flabbergasted when I saw it with my own eyes! Doing hi-Rez and then cutting off like that, that's... gosh, nothing less than an embarrassing cash-in for all the HDTracks consumers. BAD move!
     
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