Sorry, this post got kinda long. I composed it as a text file first, now copy and paste: Ok, that wasn't so bad. Here's what I've discovered by comparing the 4 cd Winterland box to the 'Bob Terry' tapes. The BT tapes have a total run time of 382 minutes. But overall they run fast. That might be 390 or 400 minutes if everything was speed/pitch corrected. The Winterland box has 260 minutes of music. Has anyone ever gotten the impression that the box music runs too slow? Can we assume it's all running at the correct speed/pitch? Don't laugh. lol So the first edited music I find is Sunshine of Your Love from the second show on the 10th. 2:06 from the start of Sunshine there is 29.5 seconds of music edited out. 14 bars. Which seems odd but the resulting phrase/passage makes sense/works. Then in the song Killing Floor also in the second set there are 12 bars of what amounts to bass and drums edited out about 5:16 from the start. Then for the 10-11 show first set, the Bob Terry tapes are missing 3 songs. Foxy Lady, The SSB and Purple Haze. And in the Winterland box the 10-11 SSB and Purple Haze are both from the first set. There was no SSB played in the second set. Is there confusion about that? The WIKI has it wrong. Claiming that the SSB is from the second set and that Purple Haze is from the first. But in the second set the last two songs are Foxy Lady and Purple Haze. That's the way it runs on the Bob Terry tapes and there is no break in the continuity between the two. So then the AYE at the start of set one on 10-11 has the first 1:25 of solo/intro guitar work missing. Then about 6:55 from the start of the box track there is about 1:06 of missing flute solo with band accompaniment missing. Then about 9:48 from the start of the track there is another 2:26 missing. Some quiet jamming with bass and drums building up to louder statements with guitar and flute coming back in. So that opening track AYE should be about 16 minutes or so. Then the second set on 10-11 starts out with Tax Free. Running at the correct speed/pitch this song should be about 20 minutes or so. 5:03 from the start of the track in the box there is a 10:50 segment missing. Almost eleven minutes missing. Must have been guitar amp trouble I suppose. That segment starts out as drum solo and then kind of moves into a drums/bass jam until Hendrix comes back in for the last 5 minutes of the song. Then in the second set of 10-11 Lover Man is missing a bit. A couple of bits. After the instrumental intro there are 4 bars missing before the first verse. Then about 2 minutes in there's 48 bars of organ solo missing. That organ solo gets rather atonal. lol That brings us to the last night 10-12. No edited music in the first set tunes included in the box. But in the second set Red House is cut a couple of times. For some dumb reason there's 1:20 of prime guitar solo missing about 6:05 in from the start of the track. Then about 7:40 from the start there's another 1:14 missing of very nice, kind of quiet guitar soloing. Why?? Also the last part of the SSB and all of Purple Haze are missing from the Bob Terry Tapes at the end of this show. So I just did a quick check to see what kind of speed/pitch difference I could measure. I went with a 3:00 passage in Tax Free from the first night. The Bob Terry tape was running 1.37% faster than the same song in the box set. .24 of a semi-tone. If you sync up the two sources they drift apart real quick at that rate. I just spent several days remastering the Bob Terry tapes, wish I had paid attention to that! lol I'm putting all of this away now, but I might look into fixing everything speed/pitch wise in the future. Once again, has anyone ever thought that the speed/pitch of the Winterland box is off? My final thoughts on these shows. The box gives three different studio locations for mixing. When were these mixes created? Back in the day? At the time the box came out? A little of both? I'm assuming that the shows were taped on 8 tracks??? The mix on the Bob Terry tapes is basically the same as the mix in the box. Of course the box sounds much better, but the mix is not that different. If at all??? If the shows were recorded on 8 tracks and those tapes exist. Why didn't they create a bit more of a wide open mix? It's narrow. I listened to the Bob Terry Tapes for a long time before I decided in my mind that there was anything about them that wasn't just mono. There pretty darn mono-ish. That's all I got.... Hope I didn't miss any other edited parts. It's kind of hard to follow sometimes when the two sources are not running at the same speed.