Just want to rip a CD!

Well, here's an update. Got sick of the error on EAC when I tried to write the .cue image, so I loaded Nero (which I discovered I already had...crazy, I know, but the CD was packed away).

My burner is a Yamaha CRW F1E. I copied the DCC Aqualung from my IDE DVD drive to the Yamaha F1 at 1x without going to the hard drive. I am listening to the copy on phones right now and it sounds incredible. Both timings are the same. I can't hear any difference. Can't see why I need EAC at this point!

 

Have you ever used any other program? My point is that if you can't hear any difference, why go through all that trouble? He could have been long done with his CD-R already!

I don't normall use EAC and my CD-Rs sound fine, indistinguishable from the original. And, IF there are any differences, they are too miniscule to matter! And I do mean miniscule!

If the drive does bit-accurate DAE, and virtually all modern CD burners do, there's no problem!

 

My point exactly!!! BTW, I also use the Yamaha F1! Great burner, huh? It's a real workhorse and will burn or rip anything with ease!

 

Well I'm glad you classify missing parts of the complete picture miniscule, but I don't. Yes, I've tried other programs, in fact I have a new one I'll be trying out soon. So far EAC gives the closest to the original of the 3 programs I've tried. I only rely on my ears to tell me what's on a CD-R, not a computer program or head phones because neither will be as accurate as the home system.

 

And interestingly, when I ran tests with EAC, it didn't like that drive and preferred my DVD as far as cache settings and whatever. Of course,those tests were for ripping, but I still find that strange.

 

Dave, I totally follow you and I don't trust CDRs to be as good as the original no matter WHAT I use.

But I am sick of dealing with EAC. I've gotten it back to the point where when I load the .cue sheet it is all set to rip, but when I try to do so an "error" occurs. I may toy with it more, but I have to say that doing a copy at 1X on Nero from my DVD drive to my Yamaha F1 sounds fantastic so far.

 

Jeff, it honestly sounds like you don't have the adaptec driver installed or installed properly. I know when I set up mine I had to put the driver in a different file and move it to the EAC program file to make it work.

 

You're probably right, Dave. I will have to try to figure it out, but I am pleased with Nero.

 

That's the main thing, have fun Jeff.

 

Correct! I had lots of problems with EAC until I installed that driver. wnaspi32.dll is the Adaptec file you need. All you do is download it from the Adaptec website and install it in the eac folder usually found in the Program Files folder.

 

An update:

I'm going to stick with Nero. I ripped and burned the Aqualung DCC and it sounds stellar. There is no difference at all. I checked and the total time is the same, the waveforms are the same, and it appears it is identical in every way.

The Philips cdr I used for the test I cited above seemed to want to burn much faster than 1x even when I set it for 1x. Has anyone else noticed this? I bought some Mam-A gold CDRs and burned Aqualung again last night, and it burned at 1x. In fact, I think it took the whole 45 minutes or whatever and burned in REAL TIME!

Anyway, I am unconvinced that burning an image to the hard drive with EAC makes sense, as it seems like an extra step. I can burn right from my DVD drive to my Yamaha F1 at 1X to a gold CDR and I cannot see why I would need anything else.

 

If your CD isn't scratched, you wouldn't. The advantage of EAC and Plextools Professional is that they are secure rippers. They read every sector of the disc at least twice and compare the first read against the second to ensure the data is exactly alike. They are therefore superior to non-secure rippers, if the accuracy of your rip is more important than speed or ease of use.

If you have a scratch or other imperfection in your disc, EAC will read the damaged part of the disc over and over again, until it gets the same result twice. A non-secure ripper would simply go with what it extracts on the first read. Generally, some error correction is performed, but a non-secure ripper doesn't actually go back and try to read the data again.