Kinks Reunion Inches Closer To Fruition

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by JRM, Jan 1, 2014.

  1. marblesmike

    marblesmike Forum Resident

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    And John Dalton didn't have inspired bass lines?
     
  2. Bill

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    The poster expressed a preference for the early albums, on which Quaife, not Dalton played.
    Calm down.
     
  3. marblesmike

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    I'm calm. To each his own I guess.

    I just think it's silly to think a reunion won't be good without Quaife. That's my opinion.
     
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  4. EasterEverywhere

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    If you're talking about Dave,I would agree with you.Maybe it was the stroke.The smart 60s rock stars know when to retire.Unlike certain forum favorites I could name.:whistle:
     
  5. ajsmith

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    These guys are gonna be a long time dead. There'll be plenty of time for them to not reform when they're gone. I'd love to see them go for it.
     
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  6. ajsmith

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    It's sad, but you're probably largely right, in terms of the material that ended up being released, Pete didn't end up having a great influence on it, as Ray was very precise about exactly what he wanted in the studio and according to every interview you could read with Pete, the older Davies brother was very opposed to input from the other members. Pete always said that "Village Green" was the only LP where Ray loosened even a little and let the other have more input into the arrangements.
    However it's not to say that Pete didn't have anything to contribute artistically- he was a songwriter too and it's a real shame Ray's dominance precluded any chance of any Quaife originals making it onto a Kinks LP. Even Bill Wyman got a couple of the songs onto Stones albums! Pete's main signifiance is that in a lot of way's he was Ray's only potential equal in the band - Dave's position was always weakened by being seen as the "kid brother", and it's fair to say that Avory and the other members who came after Quaife were much more happy in the position of interpreting Ray's work rather than making their own artistic contributions (having said that, Dalton did write one song, "A Shoe Without A Lace", that he sang live with them at least once!)
     
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  7. Beaneydave

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    Seen last 3 ray uk tours was great as ever but I too saw him on Jools on NYEve and was very concerned he look I'll, hope it was just a bad cold but he did look frail.
     
  8. gazebo

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    What I love about these Kinks reunion threads is the obvious lack of concern about/knowledge of the Kast Off Kinks. Anyway they seem to have a full diary this year.so won't be able to fit in a tour with the Davies brothers :D

    http://kastoffkinks.co.uk/html/gigs.html

    There's already a Kinks 50th anniversary gig scheduled to which all ex-Kinks who have played with the Kast off Kinks will be invited (of the Davies clan that includes Ray, perhaps even Rasa, but not Dave). Its at Broxbourne Civic Hall in August.
     
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  9. LandHorses

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  10. Arnold Grove

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    With The Kinks, they always screw up and do the opposite of whatever is planned. So that "bad" news from Mick Avory is the first piece of POSITIVE news to me. In my mind, the more pessimistic it gets, the more likely the reunion could happen. There's hope after all... ;) Arnie
     
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  11. gazebo

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    Don't hold your breathe Arnie. That Mick Avory interview confirms what I've been told recently that Dave is sticking to his "terms and conditions" about who is and who isn't part of a reunion, terms that aren't acceptable to anyone else. I haven't bought Uncut, does anyone know if anything different is said there?

    Thats why the Kast-Offs have gone ahead and booked their own 50th Anniversary gig. Its good news that Mick and Dave are in email contact though.
     
  12. rstamberg

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    Sorry Dave, but no Mick Avory, no Kinks reunion for me. Why not add John Dalton, as well? He was great.
     
  13. Oatsdad

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    Did you consider the 1984-1996 Kinks to still be "The Kinks"? I can see why some wouldn't - it was "The Ray and Dave Show" - but I'm curious to know if Avory's absence over that decade was a deal-breaker for you...
     
  14. rstamberg

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    Nope, I like many of the band's records after 1984. I don't think Avory's replacement was a bad drummer, just a little too slick for my taste. The whole Argent connection was getting to be a bit much.

    I'm simply saying that since Pete Quaife is gone and John Dalton's been playing Kinks songs in Kast-Off Kinks, why not get him back? Hell, why not get Baptist as well?

    The late-'60s to late-'70s Kinks records are my personal favorites, anyway. (I didn't say they were their best— just that they're my favorites.)
     
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  15. SoundAdvice

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    I'd imagine that those gigs have a reunion cancel clause on them or the KoK can get another drummer.
     
  16. ajsmith

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    I hope they've extended the invite to Dave anyway... just in case...

    I think part of the problem is that Dave himself has an obvious lack of concern/knowledge of The Kast Off Kinks. I think if he could be more directly exposed to what they were doing and the amount of love their followers have for him, there might be a chance he could soften. Based on him banning them from the US (ironic eh?) , I get the impression that Dave thinks they're equivalent to one of these 60s reunions tours claiming to be the original group with one original member, when in fact they're a very respectful and humble tribute (in the truest sense) to the spirit and legacy of the Kinks. Ray should chloroform Dave and drag him along to a KOK show.
     
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  17. jeffrey walsh

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    At this point the two brothers and others would be fine. Btw, Paul McCartney kicked ass on Jools Holland with those Band On The Run tunes. I am amazed. :)
     
  18. nikh33

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  19. INSW

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    There was a photo not too long ago of Ray and Dave at their aunt's birthday. I'd post it if I could find it. That to me was a reunion.
     
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  20. Arnold Grove

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  21. nikh33

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    Even or Odd, I'd guess The Kinks will do the Odd. Always odd!
     
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  22. LandHorses

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    I think Ray wants to focus on his Americana concerts. He's doing a fair amount of shows in the UK, and it seems he'll be in the US this fall.

    Loves playing New York City close to "Thanksgiving Day."
     
  23. oxegen

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    Going to see Ray in conversation with the writer Joseph O'Connor at the National Concert, Hall, Dublin on 19 May 2014.
     
  24. ajsmith

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  25. Helmut

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    There is too much talk for too long time in public. A reunion should have come as a surprise.
     

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