Lennon & Zappa - Baby Please Don't Go

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Dr. Robert, May 16, 2019.

  1. Dr. Robert

    Dr. Robert Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    First time I heard this live jam in a while and I'm amazed at how damn good it actually is!

    John's powerful vocals, the rhythm section of Aynsley Dunbar and Jim Pons holding it down, Zappa's inspired lead playing (Lennon's scream of "ZAPPA!" right before the solo is hilarious, by the way), all that make for a memorable performance. And strangely enough, even Yoko's screams fit in well with the song, for me, giving it a slight air of chaos and uncertainty.

    Any more love for this one off?

     
  2. FredV

    FredV Forum Resident

    Perhaps the last time Lennon and Zappa were on the same page until John & Yoko took credit for a couple of Zappa tunes and removed Flo & Eddie’s vocals in the remix of the concert they used for their ‘Sometime In New York City’ album.
     
  3. Christian Hill

    Christian Hill It's all in the mind

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    Lennon ripped off Zappa's King Kong and renamed it.


    The bad part is, there's a song that I wrote called King Kong which we played that night, and I don't know whether it was Yoko's idea or John's idea, but they changed the name of the song to Jamrag, gave themselves writing and publishing credit on it, stuck it on an album, and never paid me. It was obviously not a jam-session song – it's got a melody, it's got a bassline, it's obviously an organised song.......
    Frank Zappa
     
  4. Culpa

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    Cool track, it's always been a favorite of mine. Zappa's mix is available on his "Playground Psychotics" CD.
     
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  5. bluesbro

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    Love it. Respect to Zappa for not suing Lennon's ass.
     
  6. Rob Hughes

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    Yoko and Zappa are really at such opposite ends of the avant spectrum that I don't really hear them working well together. Yoko's earnest screaming (and Lennon's impassioned singing) in contrast with Zappa's incorrigible irony, Lennon's musical conservatism in this era in contrast with Zappa's idiosyncratic jazzed-out prog -- it's not hard to see why they fell out, even leaving aside the crediting fiasco (which I pin squarely on the Lennon-Ono camp).

    It's like with Yoko and John in this era, there always has to be a personal reference to the song and, ultimately, to, like, personal trauma -- for example, for Yoko, the existential trauma of being an embodied woman subject to corporal frailty and all that entails. I'm trying right now and failing to think of a personal lyric that Zappa ever wrote (Stinkfoot?) -- basically he never makes a direct appeal to the authority of personal experience or suffering -- that's just not how he thinks about the lyrical dimension of his art.

    It's not impossible to imagine Lennon in a more Zappa-like humor, but I don't see that Yoko's company allowed for this in late Spring 1971.
     
    Last edited: May 16, 2019
  7. daveidmarx

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    I've always quite enjoyed this fun little, whimsical number
     
  8. Not of fan of Yoko's contribution to this performance.
     
  9. WillieDaPimp

    WillieDaPimp Cave Dweller

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    This is the original.
     
  10. MarcS

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    Zappa's solo is amazing on this; I always wondered why both live releases faded out until I saw the video and the song kind of falls apart. Supposedly, when Zappa suggested playing together Yoko wanted to and John didn't, so its cool that he changed his mind. I think this experience however, (which is the only time a Beatle took the stage at the Fillmore East) galvanized John as live performer a bit as he did a bunch of performances after in 71-72.
     
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  11. Darrin L.

    Darrin L. Forum Resident

    As usual, Yoko ruins it with catterwauling...

     
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  12. the pope ondine

    the pope ondine Forum Resident

    yoko should've waited till the instrumental part to being her wailing, its actually fit there but doing it over johns vocals mired it a bit
     
  13. PIGGIES

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    Agreed, hearing this was my first exposure to FZ in the late 70’s & it changed my life :righton:
     
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  14. KDubATX

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    My favorite thing about this is that on Playground Psychotics the Yoko screeching bit is called, "A Small Eternity with Yoko Ono". That cracks a smile out on me.
     
  15. elaterium

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    I ain’t got no heart to give away?
     
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  16. elaterium

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    I’d have given anything to see someone get up on stage and punch Yoko right in the kisser.
     
  17. Joseph LeVie

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    That’s possibly his most sentimental biographical songs.
     
  18. elaterium

    elaterium Forum Resident

    Zappa seemed almost completely devoid of sentimentality. His strength?
     

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