Listenin' to Jazz and Conversation

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Lonson, Sep 1, 2016.

  1. frightwigwam

    frightwigwam Talented Amateur

    Location:
    Oregon
    I listened to that this afternoon. Strange that anyone really felt upset or threatened by Ornette at that point; it's basically quirky hard bop. Any Monk fan in 1958-59 should have been very comfortable with the music.
     
  2. Gdgray

    Gdgray Forum Resident

    Location:
    South Tampa
    Archie Shepp
    Attica Blues
    Impulse 1972 1st Pressing VG+


    Waited to play this new find until I had some alone time to really take the music in.
    I like this style of a bigger band. A little all over the place stylistically but definitely impressed with the playing. The use of voices I find hard to get accustomed to but they work well within the context of this record ….social awareness.
    It reminds me very strongly of what was going on in 1972.
     
  3. Sorcerer

    Sorcerer Senior Member

    Location:
    Netherlands
    If you like the studio album, the 2LP/2CD live recording is a treat.
    https://www.discogs.com/Archie-Shep...d-Live-At-The-Palais-Des-Glaces/master/454477
     
  4. Berthold

    Berthold "When you swing....swing some more!" -- Th. Monk

    Location:
    Rheinhessen
    Duke Ellington Meets Coleman Hawkins




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  5. Lonson

    Lonson I'm in the kitchen with the Tombstone Blues Thread Starter

    If you say so I'll take your word for it. I pay far less attention to those. Way over-priced for me.
     
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  6. ILovethebassclarinet

    ILovethebassclarinet Forum Resident

    Location:
    Great Lakes region
    Just played Volume 4 yesterday myself; at times, I could have sworn I was hearing Linda Sharrock - who's not on it...
     
  7. WorldB3

    WorldB3 Forum Resident

    Location:
    On the continent.
    Totally, really hearing it instead of letting it wash over you. I use to think of it as a dense album due to all of the musicians on it playing at the same time. However now when I immerse myself in it I am struck by how space there is in the music.
     
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  8. ILovethebassclarinet

    ILovethebassclarinet Forum Resident

    Location:
    Great Lakes region
    It's odd how some people seem to just 'disappear' into history...
    HAZEL SCOTT
     
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  9. Berthold

    Berthold "When you swing....swing some more!" -- Th. Monk

    Location:
    Rheinhessen
    Duke Ellington & Orchestra Featuring Paul Gonsalves



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  10. bluejimbop

    bluejimbop Thumb Toe Heel Toe

    Location:
    Castro Valley, CA
    Thank you for posting this YouTube. The perfection of this version of this song is a reason to get out of bed on any given day.
     
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  11. ILovethebassclarinet

    ILovethebassclarinet Forum Resident

    Location:
    Great Lakes region
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  12. almost unison

    almost unison Forum Resident

    Location:
    EU
    Especially since Scott's life seems to have been far from boring: she read a statement before the House Un-American Activities Committee in 1950, was a vocal McCarthy opponent and civil rights activist throughout her life, and had a somewhat controversial affair and marriage with Adam Clayton Powell, the first NY African-American member of Congress.

    And musically she was quite versatile as well. In the 1940s she did not only record jazz standards but European classical music as well (Discogs).

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    In 1979, in her late fifties and after hardly releasing any music for two decades, she suddenly released a disco infused soul album!



    I wouldn't mind reading a well-researched, loving Hazel Scott biography!

    Edit: this biography might actually exist:

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  13. ILovethebassclarinet

    ILovethebassclarinet Forum Resident

    Location:
    Great Lakes region
    While I knew about the rest, the disco was news to me! Thanks.
     
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  14. Berthold

    Berthold "When you swing....swing some more!" -- Th. Monk

    Location:
    Rheinhessen
    Duke Ellington & John Coltrane



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  15. Bradd

    Bradd Now’s The Time

    Location:
    Chester, NJ
    Several of the companies announce their schedule in advance. However, things tell to sell out quickly. They do not go out of print but because the pressing plants are at capacity, you may have to wait a long time if you don’t order quickly.
     
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  16. Berthold

    Berthold "When you swing....swing some more!" -- Th. Monk

    Location:
    Rheinhessen
    and now:


    Duke Ellington & Louis Armstrong: Together For The First Time




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  17. chervokas

    chervokas Senior Member

    Well, not really, the soloing completely abandons the song's harmony as material to work from or to give the performance overall structure. That's totally unlike hard bop, and completely foreign too and even the opposite of the whole foundation of bop itself. That was really challenging to people who had been playing vertically on changes in jazz for a generation. It doesn't sit comfortably on that album because you've got Walter Norris not knowing what to do with it and trying still to play "Out of Nowhere" changes or whatever behind Coleman, so sometimes it sounds like a hard bop band that can't get it together vs. what it would sound like when Coleman got to record with a rhythm section who understood his music. I think a lot of Coleman's language and ideas are now so fully absorbed in jazz and so familiar that it's hard to hear the old stuff with "period ears" and realize how radically different it was. And, on this album in particular, it's half in, half out, with the hard bop rhythm section trying to make it work as hard bop. I will say, there IS a lot of bebop and Charlie Parker in Coleman -- not so much in the harmonic ideas or note choices but in the sound and rhythm shape of phrases and blues feeling -- that I'm surprised people didn't hear back in the day, but I think they were really hung up on the very different ideas of harmony and song form from what had been fundamental in jazz for for the immediately prior 15 or 20 years.
     
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  18. Lonson

    Lonson I'm in the kitchen with the Tombstone Blues Thread Starter

    Ordering quickly is a good idea with any jazz product these days. A habit I've gotten into with my probably most purchased new release or reissue medium: cds from Japan.
     
  19. Stu02

    Stu02 Forum Resident

    Location:
    Canada
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    Bill Evans
    We Will Meet Again
    He was so strong in his last few years. What could have been...
     
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  20. Berthold

    Berthold "When you swing....swing some more!" -- Th. Monk

    Location:
    Rheinhessen
    Duke Ellington & Count Basie: First Time



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  21. Mike6565

    Mike6565 Hyperactive!

    Location:
    Long island, ny
  22. Bradd

    Bradd Now’s The Time

    Location:
    Chester, NJ
    Everything seems crazy these days, probably because we’ve spent more time at home in the last year plus. Hopefully, that will be changing soon.

    How is your Dad doing?
     
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  23. Berthold

    Berthold "When you swing....swing some more!" -- Th. Monk

    Location:
    Rheinhessen
    Duke Ellington, Charles Mingus & Max Roach: Money Jungle



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  24. mwheelerk

    mwheelerk Sorry, I can't talk now, I'm listening to music...

    Location:
    Gilbert Arizona
    After finishing up with one cut from a The Bad Plus album this is the first album of the morning...



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    Paul Chambers Quartet ‎– Bass On Top
    Label:
    Blue Note
    Series:
    RVG Edition
    Format:
    Qobuz ALAC, Download, Album, Remastered
    Country:
    US
    Released:
    2007
    Genre:
    Jazz
    Style:
    Bop
     
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  25. bresna

    bresna Senior Member

    Location:
    York, Maine
    Whenever I see an "entirely analog" sticker on an Atlantic LP, I wonder if this is from a master tape that somehow managed to survive that warehouse fire. Not many did.
     

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