Listenin' to Jazz and Conversation

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Lonson, Sep 1, 2016.

  1. Dan Steele

    Dan Steele Senior Member

    Chicago suburbs
  2. Dan Steele

    Dan Steele Senior Member

    Chicago suburbs
    Have you played this one? Really liking Rat Race Blues which was a record show buy yesterday. Pretty much same band as Sayin Something (and 2 others from 1960)

  3. frightwigwam

    frightwigwam Talented Amateur

    Does she have opinions about particular jazz pianists?

    I have a feeling that jazz piano, especially trio/solo performances, may be easier for some classical music fans to appreciate.
  4. Rfreeman

    Rfreeman Senior Member

    Lawrenceville, NJ
    Yes she would likely like that better as she would appreciate the technique. I know she has enjoyed some of Keith Jarrett's solo work - but a lot of that is fairly far from typical jazz idiom.
  5. Sorcerer

    Sorcerer Forum Resident

    Greg Osby The Invisible Hand (Blue Note)
  6. Dan Steele

    Dan Steele Senior Member

    Chicago suburbs
  7. Six String

    Six String Senior Member

    Of course! I have two copies on vinyl, an OG and an OJC!

    NP The Acme Rocket Quartet (Lather Records) 1996 cd
    An off shoot of sorts of Thin White Rope who were a bit of a cult band out of Davis, CA in the 80s. Guitarist Roger Kunkel was in that band. Sort of jazz, sort of post rock. Hard to describe but it swings thanks to a superb drummer Steve Edberg. I saw them several times in local venues back in the day. Kunkel now plays in the Californios led by Mike Blanchard but he also self releases things on bandcamp.
  8. Stu02

    Stu02 Forum Resident

    I am especially proud of the SACD. They were oddly surprised when I kept on saying “not enough compression”
  9. Stu02

    Stu02 Forum Resident

    Sales have been poor so in fact I have no hits. That title was my marketing idea to trick people but somehow it is not working all that well. I wanted to add gold rings and a brass knuckle to my hand on the cover but they refused. I blame that too subtle cover on the poor sales….
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  10. cds23

    cds23 Forum Resident

    Germany, Aachen


    Very early Gunter Hampel release and one of the few I really likex - to be frank, I can't stand the singing of his wife Jeanne Lee, and since most of his 70's output features the latter, count me out. But this "Music From Europe" release on ESP Disk is excellent.

  11. bluemooze

    bluemooze Forum Resident

    Frenchtown NJ USA
    Listening to CD 2 from "All Monk - The Riverside Albums".

    The Unique Thelonious Monk

    "Liza" (George & Ira Gershwin, Gus Kahn)
    "Memories of You" (Eubie Blake, Andy Razaf)
    "Honeysuckle Rose" (Fats Waller, Andy Razaf)
    "Darn That Dream" (Eddie DeLange, James Van Heusen)
    "Tea for Two" (Vincent Youmans, Irving Caesar)
    "You Are Too Beautiful"
    (Richard Rodgers, Lorenz Hart)
    "Just You, Just Me" (Jesse Greer, Raymond Klages)

    Thelonious Monk
    – piano
    Art Blakey – drums
    Oscar Pettiford – bass

  12. Tribute

    Tribute Forum Resident

    Phil Ochs told me that he titled his album Greatest Hits, though it was all new songs, because he thought that no one would ever issue a greatest hits album. It was his little joke.

    I did not know at the time (1970) that it would indeed be his last album, though I suspected it.

    The last song was titled "No More Songs" followed by an odd press conference clip where Phil said he would be around "..for a while.."

    He was wrong in assuming that his work would not be recognized for years to come (now 50+ years)
  13. Noonie

    Noonie Exploring music is a gift

    Toronto, Canada
    NP Freddie Hubbard - Open Sesame
    BN 4040 2019 Reissue, LP, Stereo 180g

    Freddie Hubbard - trumpet
    Tina Brooks - tenor saxophone
    McCoy Tyner - piano
    Sam Jones - bass
    Clifford Jarvis - drums

    Had a crazy-busy day, just sitting down now and pulled out this recent purchase for the first time. "Busy?", halfway through the album my daughter reminded me we needed to get her lunch for tomorrow. Ran out and got that done, now sitting down again, and onto side 2. Sound quality on this album really good to my ears, and I like every song very much. I most always enjoy reading the liner notes and this was no different - an educational and entertaining read.
  14. Tribute

    Tribute Forum Resident

    Violinist Nigel Kennedy cancels concert after Classic FM stops Hendrix tribute
    Performer pulls Royal Albert Hall gig over decision he compared to musical segregation

    Violinist Nigel Kennedy performing Fete de la Musique on France 2 Live Show / Music Day in Versailles Photograph: Tony Barson/WireImage

    Dalya Alberge
    Mon 20 Sep 2021 01.00 EDT
    The Guardian

    Violinist Nigel Kennedy has pulled out of a concert at the Royal Albert Hall with only days to go after accusing the radio station Classic FM of preventing him from performing a Jimi Hendrix tribute.

    Kennedy said the “culturally prejudiced” decision amounted to “musical segregation”, with the station he now calls “Jurassic FM” preferring him to play Vivaldi’s Four Seasons in Wednesday’s show.

    He intended to play some Hendrix with Chineke!, an orchestra of young black and ethnically diverse musicians, until he was told the rock star was “not suitable” for the station’s desired audience. Classic FM, which was hosting the event, preferred for him to play Vivaldi’s Four Seasons.

    He said that he felt he had no option to withdraw after being informed of the station’s decision.

    “This is musical segregation,” he said. “If it was applied to people, it would be illegal. If that type of mentality is rampant in the arts, then we still haven’t fixed the problem of prejudice. This is much more serious than my feathers being a bit ruffled. Prejudice in music is completely dreadful. They’re effectively saying that Hendrix is all right in the Marquee Club, but not in the Albert Hall.”

    Kennedy, the bestselling violinist of all time, had the world’s biggest-selling classical hit with his 1989 recording of Vivaldi’s Four Seasons. He is also a longstanding Hendrix fan. In 1999 he released The Kennedy Experience: a collection of eight classical interpretations of songs such as Purple Haze and Third Stone from the Sun.

    For Classic FM, he had planned to perform one of Hendrix’s most acclaimed songs, Little Wing, with its “Celtic-sounding melody” given a new rendition in the style of Ralph Vaughan Williams, who was inspired by Celtic songs.

    According to Kennedy, he finally decided to pull out after being told that he would not receive adequate rehearsal time, alongside Classic FM telling him how to perform The Four Seasons.

    He said: “They were telling me that I had to do it with a conductor, which I’ve never done. The communication between myself and the orchestra is much better than having someone doing semaphore in between them and myself …

    “The Berliner Philharmoniker, the best orchestra in the world, never asked me to have a conductor and they never asked me not to rehearse. They take a joy in rehearsing in order to get deeper into the music … I’ve got a name for Classic FM: Jurassic FM.”

    Kennedy says half a century of success has been in part due to his unprejudiced style of musicianship. As such, the row with Classic FM was the last straw.

    “My whole career has been about bringing down barriers,” he said. “[Hendrix is] one of the foremost composers of the 20th century, along with Stravinsky and Duke Ellington. He brought all types of music together and broke down barriers. Before he died [in 1970], he was talking about taking his music into a more symphonic area. I feel such an affinity with his music.

    “Little Wing belonged much more in a classical music concert than my Four Seasons, where I’m quite likely to drag out an electric violin or get a massive group improvisation going on.”

    Chineke! was founded in 2015 by Chi-chi Nwanoku, a leading double-bass player, to provide opportunities for young black and ethnically diverse classical musicians.

    Kennedy said: “Chi-Chi and Chineke! were saying we want to be seen as a classical orchestra and maybe the Hendrix repertoire’s not right. Classic FM were saying it’s not right for their audience.”

    He had waived his fee to work with the young musicians: “Everybody else was going to get paid. I feel sad as they’ve got so much to gain from someone who’s spent their whole life breaking down barriers between different types of music and people.”

    But he admitted he was dismayed to be disappointing audiences by abruptly withdrawing from the concert. “But it was really made impossible for me to play,” he said. “It meant we were going to be offering something shoddy to the audience.” On 4 November, he will publish his memoir and release a three CD box set, both titled ‘Uncensored’. The book will cover his life story, from his humble beginnings to becoming a world-class star, the album ranges from classical to more modern genres.

    Nwanoku said: “We had nothing to do with Nigel pulling out of this. It’s not up to us what we play in the Classic FM concert. It was decided by Classic FM, who rightly insist that repertoire played at their annual Royal Albert Hall concert is familiar to their loyal listeners. They did not want Jimi Hendrix on Classic FM. No blame should be laid at our feet.

    “We were so keen to do the concert with Nigel and had agreed to his request not to have a conductor for The Four Seasons and an extra rehearsal. We’re proud of our collaborations with other genres, including Carl Craig and Stormzy.”

    Classic FM declined to comment.
  15. Tribute

    Tribute Forum Resident

    I will note that this gives Kennedy's upcoming book and boxset some major worldwide publicity.
  16. frightwigwam

    frightwigwam Talented Amateur

    "Don't blame us, but I agree with the Classic FM position."
  17. mwheelerk

    mwheelerk "People think I'm crazy"

    Gilbert Arizona
    After having no Mose Allison in my music library for all these years, though I did get to see him live in the mid-90's in a small club, I added an album two weeks ago and two titles today. And, I have identified one more to add.

    The first Mose in my collection...
    Mose Allison – I Don't Worry About A Thing
    Label: Rhino Records – R2-71417
    Series: Atlantic Jazz Gallery
    Format: CD, Album, Reissue, Remastered
    Country: US
    Released: 1993
    Genre: Jazz, Blues
    Style: Piano Blues

    And added today...

    The Mose Allison Trio – I Love The Life I Live
    Label: Columbia – CK 57880, Legacy – CK 57880
    Format: CD, Album, Remastered
    Country: US
    Released: 1994
    Genre: Jazz
    Style: Hard Bop, Bop

    A Van Morrison album just finished and I'll be starting I Love The Live I Live momentarily...

    Mose Allison – Gimcracks And Gewgaws
    Label: Blue Note – 7243 8 23211 2 5
    Format: CD, Album
    Country: US
    Released: 1998
    Genre: Jazz
    Style: Bop, Cool Jazz

    I listened to this one earlier today...

    And the one I'm still looking for...

    Mose Allison – Back Country Suite For Piano, Bass And Drums
    Label: Original Jazz Classics – OJCCD-075-2, Prestige – P-7091
    Format: CD, Album, Reissue, Remastered
    Country: US
    Released: 1991
    Genre: Jazz, Blues
    Style: Country Blues

    For simply wanting a sampling of Mose music in my library have I made any glaring omissions?
  18. alarickc

    alarickc Vinylholic

    Shaker Heights, OH
    I'm with Kennedy on this one. The whole world of western-classical touring soloists is based on the soloists maintaining creative control, especially over their repertoire. Classic FM and the orchestra should have inquired as to his chosen pieces for the performance before contracting for his performance and announcing the concert. They should have refused him then and there if they didn't want to play/broadcast his choice of pieces. This sounds like it was an entirely avoidable debacle.
  19. Lonson

    Lonson Just a Lucky So-and-so Thread Starter

    I don't know post-Atlantic Mose as well as I should, but I would recommend this Columbia title as the best of those three and a good one to have in a collection. Personally I would have to have all the Prestige titles, but you have a good representation already.

  20. Mirror Image

    Mirror Image Béla Bartók (1881 - 1945)


    Pat Metheny Group: Letter from Home

  21. vanhooserd

    vanhooserd Senior Member

    V-8 Ford was written by pianist/singer Willie Love, recorded by him in Jackson, MS on 12/1/51 & released on a Trumpet 78. The record has some nice electric guitar by "Little Milton" Campbell, later a popular blues artist. Mose changes the lyric slightly & leaves out a verse. Another blues singer threatens to murder his woman if she doesn't do right, but it's a classic song & performance.
  22. Berthold

    Berthold "When you swing....swing some more!" -- Th. Monk

    Thelonious Monk: At The It Club #1

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  23. almost unison

    almost unison Forum Resident

    I love the ambitious messiness of Ochs' Greatest Hits.

    In the light of the many disappointments in his life and its sad end, I never know whether I should laugh or cry when looking at the sardonically witty back cover of this record, where he "proudly" proclaims to have achieved as much as 0,000001 % of Elvis' popularity.


    I might play this album during today's commute - it's been quite some time!
  24. formbypc

    formbypc Forum Resident

    Have you heard the early Jonas Hellborg?

    Electric bass, mind....
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  25. formbypc

    formbypc Forum Resident

    I can't seem to find it on discogs or by googling ... more detail, please?
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