Listenin' to Jazz and Conversation

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Lonson, Sep 1, 2016.

  1. Erik B.

    Erik B. Fight the Power

    Gonna work my way through this for the third time.

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  2. Tribute

    Tribute Senior Member

    And it is likely that countless thousands of high school tenor sax students tried to copy his Pink Panther solo!

    And every school band concert audience member loved it!

    I have not checked this version to see if Plas is still on tenor, but it does delete the sound effects

     
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  3. Erik B.

    Erik B. Fight the Power

    10/30/1973


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  4. cds23

    cds23 Accidentally slowing the forum down with huge pics

    Location:
    Germany, Aachen
    THE GIUSEPPI LOGAN QUARTET | ESP_DISK | RECORDED 1965 | RELEASED 1965 | US FIRST MONO PRESSING ESP_DISK 1007 LP

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    The first of two albums on ESP by Giuseppi Logan, a man who received just as much praise as criticism for his technical abilities and character. I for one find it very confusing or even naive to think that all of the Free Jazz cats were gentle, harmony striving and argument evasive individuals. First of all, they created art for the acquired taste; they insisted on doing what they loved, knowing that 99% of the population will hate every single sound they produce. Secondly, some, if not many of those musicians have gone through personal and financial hell - no bookings, no record deal and no roof. With this kind of vita, I know I wouldn't get easier to live or work with. Back on topic, the music presented on this album won't please everyone but if I may speak for myself, I find it fantastic from start to finish, especially Side B which contains "Bleeker Partita", a 15 minute Free/Modal hybrid monster. I get that some dislike that sharp tone produced by Logan and his "chopped" phrasing, but I feel it is a worthy execution of what was supposed to look and sound like a devilish recording. On top of that, the sidemen are so top of the league: Don Pullen, Eddie Gomez and Milford Graves, I mean, a true wizard on the drums.

     
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  5. Tribute

    Tribute Senior Member

    Though years ago I gave away my complete run of Downbeat magazine from the mid 1940's to 1972, I had saved a few copies with cover stories on some of my favorite musicians.

    50 years ago this week (October 28, 1971), the cover story was on Monk, and the magazine included what might have been Monk's last print-interview (as he had largely stopped speaking).

    I believe it was authentic, as Monk's son, T.S., was present, as was tenor player Paul Jeffrey.

    The interview was conducted in Mexico City.

    Most of his answers were brief, but sometimes they extended to two sentences.

    Here are just a few excerpts:

    Downbeat: How do you feel about God?
    Monk: Why bring religion into it?
    Downbeat: It's part of you...Are you a religious man?
    Monk: Cool it awhile. Don't get me too fast.
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    Downbeat: What do you think the purpose of life is?
    Monk: To die.
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  6. Taylor VanRoekel

    Taylor VanRoekel Forum Resident

    Location:
    Salt Lake
    Had an interesting set going this afternoon that I thought I'd share:

    Kenny Burrell & John Coltrane, New Jazz, 1962

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    I can't remember how this came onto my radar. Kenny Burrell is one of my main guys right now, though. I'm starting to appreciate the adventurous disposition he had. He plays cool ideas here, always in the pocket, which sounds maybe just slightly uncomfortable for Coltrane at times. No doubt, Trane still has such brilliant takes on the melodies in his solos, and hearing his tone with the backing of a guitar is a really cool listen. I'm interested if anyone is familiar with additional "trane+guitar" recordings?

    Then I had, Thimar, Anouar Brahem, John Surman, and Dave Holland, ECM, 1996

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    Shoutout to whoever posted this album recently here. This one really had me by the throat. Everything works on this set, which is not unusual for these ECM recordings in my limited experience. There's so much space and pause on Manfred Eicher recordings which really helps expose the almost telepathic interplay and colored compositions. You feel everything listening to this, and if you have a predisposition towards the arabic sound, you're in for a memorable listen. The aforementioned space and silence really helps out ECM bass players, and Dave Holland is no exception. He plays here across from Anouar Brahem on Oud, and John Surman on soprano sax and bass clarinet. The whole thing is brilliant.
    As a side note, marcin wasilewski trio is another holy-level group that make you feel things.

    Ended it with Circle in the Round, Miles Davis, compilation, Columbia, 1979

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    I bought a copy of this record from Delta Breeze in Sacramento recently upon recommendation of the owner. It's a compilation of unreleased recordings from 50s-70's, and as such spans all the little bands major and minor that Davis played with. It's definitely worth picking up if you see it, but the fourth side is what I was after today. Sanctuary is in the same vein as In a Silent Way, and leads into a cover of Crosby, Stills & Nash's Guinnevere. As I was checking out, the owner of aforementiond shop specifically trashed on this closing track. The liner notes also dog on it as a "period piece" that doesn't stand the test of time. I think it sounds like proto trip-hop and has a head knocking groove that could easily be rapped over, let alone its potential as a sample. features Joe Zawinul full spaced out and some cool sitar sounds that fit it nicely with the rest of this afternoon.

    Cheers!
     
  7. dennis the menace

    dennis the menace Forum Veteran

    Location:
    Montréal
    Coltrane and Wes Montgomery played together at the Newport Jazz Festival in 1961 for three songs. Rumours are that there is a tape of this performance but don't know if it's real or not. That had to be something to hear !!!
     
  8. Tribute

    Tribute Senior Member

    I would bet that most Newport Festivals were recorded, but not by the record companies. Issuing them enters a tangle of legal issues as many artists had exclusive contracts.

    Remember how Columbia/SONY attempted to stop the issue of Monk in Palo Alto, and succeeded for awhile, even though he had not recorded for Columbia in over 50 years.
     
  9. mwheelerk

    mwheelerk Sorry, I can't talk now, I'm listening to music...

    Location:
    Gilbert Arizona
    I have the Kenny Burrell/John Coltrane. I have lots of Miles Davis. I do have three albums by Anouar Brahem, one by John Surman and one by Dave Holland but I have never seen nor heard this trio date and if Qobuz or Tidal will accommodate me I will rectify that momentarily.
     
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  10. Berthold

    Berthold "When you swing....swing some more!" -- Th. Monk

    Location:
    Rheinhessen
    Jimmie Lunceford: Classics 1939



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  11. Lonson

    Lonson I'm in the kitchen with the Tombstone Blues Thread Starter

    So many mornings Bethold's posts greet me as I wake and sip coffee. Thanks for this wonderful service sir! ;)
     
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  12. Berthold

    Berthold "When you swing....swing some more!" -- Th. Monk

    Location:
    Rheinhessen

    Thank you @Lonson! This is very friendly!
     
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  13. Berthold

    Berthold "When you swing....swing some more!" -- Th. Monk

    Location:
    Rheinhessen
    Jimmie Lunceford: The CBS Recordings 1939-40 #2



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  14. On a roll last night with Miles Davis shootouts, to free up trades for items on hold at a local store:
    • Miles Davis - Jack Johnson first press vs. 1977 RP (hard to discern a difference, but kept first press)
    • Miles Davis/Monk first press mono vs. Kevin Gray mono remaster (first press was warmer)
    • Miles Davis - Milestones early press mono vs. Kevin Gray 2013 mono (Gray has more punch and captures the frenetic energy, but early press has a subtle appeal and natural quality that keeps me coming back)
    • Birth of the Cool RVG CD vs. Capitol Vol 1 LP mono 70s (the LP won out. The CD was cut hot but the LP worked better at higher volumes without brass becoming shrill)
    • Coltrane Master Takes from the Vanguard (Labson) vs. UHQCD remasters of Live at Vanguard and Impressions. Checking I don't have biases against Labson before deduplicating
     
  15. He can be found on the West Coast recordings in many studio bands with Billy May and more and Glen Gray (Swing Era)
    Plas Johnson
     
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  16. Berthold

    Berthold "When you swing....swing some more!" -- Th. Monk

    Location:
    Rheinhessen
    Jimmie Lunceford: Classics 1940-41

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  17. Zhan

    Zhan swimming with the maenads

    Location:
    Tokyo
    Glad I was able to help!
     
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  18. Sorcerer

    Sorcerer Senior Member

    Location:
    Netherlands
  19. Zhan

    Zhan swimming with the maenads

    Location:
    Tokyo
    Listening to Amirtha Kidambi's Elder Ones - From Untruth right now for the umpteenth time.

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    "Eat the rich" is a common sentiment these days, and this album makes its politics clear from the very first notes. Most of the time, my love of freaky, female vocals is a folk thing, but sometimes this fascination bleeds over into jazz, like in the case of this album or Matana Roberts. The avant-garde improvisations on this album are cathartic escapes from modern oppression. (I can see how this kind of music might upset some people, though.)
     
  20. KCLizard

    KCLizard Forum Resident

    Location:
    Montréal
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    Very subtle, perfect music for morning.
     
  21. Mike6565

    Mike6565 Hyperactive!

    Location:
    Long island, ny
    New find
    Miles Davis - live at the Fillmore east March 7,1970
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  22. Berthold

    Berthold "When you swing....swing some more!" -- Th. Monk

    Location:
    Rheinhessen
    Jimmie Lunceford: The Decca Sessions #6



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  23. Taylor VanRoekel

    Taylor VanRoekel Forum Resident

    Location:
    Salt Lake
    Did you find it? Should be a few CD copies knocking around on discogs. Even if you have to ship it from overseas (depending on where you're at), DO IT
     
  24. Robitjazz

    Robitjazz Forum Resident

    Location:
    Liguria, Italy
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  25. Lonson

    Lonson I'm in the kitchen with the Tombstone Blues Thread Starter

    As one of my mono block amplifiers is at the builder's, I'm listening to my living room system which is not quite up to the quality of my main system in the loft upstairs, and as a result I find I am listening to some new rock arrivals more than jazz lately. Rock sounds a bit better on this system to my ears.

    Right now listening to the new remaster of the Beatles "Let it Be" which is a fun listen. I think I prefer the original mix. I also have listened to the new Grateful Dead box set, "Listen to the River: St. Louis 1971, 1972 and 1973" and am up to the 1972 shows. Great stuff!

    Later today a new transport is arriving destined for the main system. At least I'll get a chance to get it warmed up and seasoned a bit before the mono block returns home.
     
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