Neil Young Launches Online Archives (1st December 2017)

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Defrance, Aug 4, 2017.

  1. Efus

    Efus Senior Member

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    USA
    First world problems and all, but I know the SHF loves a ripping conversation on new product delivery....

    So I pre-order Carnegie 70 from the WB/Greedy Hand site.
    In the e-mail reciept, it warns because of Covid, my delivery may take longer than expected.
    Why?

    I can pretty much guarantee you my local retailer will have it on day of release, or the day after.
    So why can't Warners start shipping out a week early, knowing the US postal service issues the last couple years, to satisfy customers who purchased via their website?

    This would seem to be an easy demand from Neil and other Warners artists, if they really cared.
    New product ordered through artists websites WILL be in the hands of my fans on or before release date.
    Imo, thats called taking care of your customers/fans.

    Going to be very interested to see when this vinyl arrives to me on the east coast of the US.
     
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  2. qtrules

    qtrules Forum Resident

    Location:
    canada
    this could have something to do with it.

    The shipping crisis is getting worse. Here's what that means for holiday shopping
     
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  3. Efus

    Efus Senior Member

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    USA
    I get it.
    But in business, you make adjustments.
    Tax laws change, Warners would be all over it.
    So with product delivery, Id expect the same sort of diligence.

    The European store had issues, Neil said they'd look into it, and make adjustments.
    Its not just Warners, Im a bit tired of lip service and no follow through,
    as Im being ghosted by some local businesses who I'm trying to give my money to.
     
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  4. qtrules

    qtrules Forum Resident

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    canada
    at the end of the article it says that hasbro is using more shipping partners to get product out, so it would seem companies are trying to make adjustments.

    the issue with adjustments is they cost money and they cost has to go somewhere.

    pay an inflated price for a product now? or wait a little longer for a more sustainable/reasonable price?
     
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  5. Being at the end of the world where shipments take 3-5 weeks to arrive from overseas and a lot of things I want to get are never released locally I am bemused by people getting upset that things aren’t in their hands until a few days after release.
     
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  6. JoeF.

    JoeF. Forum Resident

    Location:
    New Jersey, USA
    While I believe delays in shipping are generally related to Covid, it's for different reasons than in early 2020.
    I'm involved in the shipping business in a peripheral way and I believe--and have had my theories confirmed by those whose pay grade is WELL above mine--that the lock downs not only got consumers used to ordering nearly everything online, it also led to the last holdouts--generally older people who didn't know how to order on line or who preferred in person shopping--learning how to-- getting comfortable with --the concept.
    At least here in the USA where we are used to fast service.

    But I think there are other issues unique to vinyl. Too may albums are being released on vinyl in multiple colors and designs and in different quantities and it has to be a drag on the pressing plants.

    So blaming delays on Covid is still the easy default position.
     
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  7. noname74

    noname74 Allegedly Canadian

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    Door Dash have gotten into the product delivery game here as well.
     
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  8. ECK

    ECK Forum Resident

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    Baltimore
    Summary for the impatient: an "immigrant fella w/a lisp" is working on a Sunday night, while Efus is "watching the football game and drinking beer" and their family is moaning about getting packages delivered early.
     
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  9. Vinyl Socks

    Vinyl Socks The Buzz Driver

    Location:
    DuBois, PA
    Let's all take a break with Neil & Carrie...
    [​IMG]
     
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  10. JoeF.

    JoeF. Forum Resident

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    New Jersey, USA
    Yes, but it might not be be “ Efus” and his family. It could very well be the more upscale , wine- sipping Ethan and Emily and friends, accustomed to prompt delivery from the proles, foreign and domestic, and increasingly vexed by the poor service of late...
     
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  11. Spencer R

    Spencer R Forum Resident

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    Oxford, MS
    I knew going in that pre-ordering from Neil might lead to the scenario you mention. I pre-ordered from Neil anyway.
     
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  12. unclefred

    unclefred Coastie with the Moastie

    Location:
    Oregon Coast
    You've apparently irritated the wing dings with you reasonable question.
     
  13. bournefree

    bournefree Forum Resident

    Location:
    UK
    It's all gone very quiet on here.....
    As the Thread was talking about Shipping Problems etc. recently I will add that I received a CD Box Set ( Not Neil ) , 59 Hours after the Dispatch e - mail.....From Japan to the UK...
    59 Hours....So the System still works.
     
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  14. Zongadude

    Zongadude Music is the best

    Location:
    France
    That's standard procedure. It's a generic sentence you have in most orders from any online shop nowadays, "just in case".
    Nothing to worry about, imho.

    I ordered the Archive II book last week.
    I received it just one week later, which, from the U.S.A. to France is quite stunning !
     
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  15. Harm1985

    Harm1985 Forum Resident

    A bunch of letters posted on August 31st.

    One by myself, asking Neil if they could post the full Canterbury House 68, Riverboat 60, Fillmore east 1970, Cellar Door 1970 and both Massey Hall concerts as timeline concerts. Of course Neil said, they would think about it. The reason I asked for it is because of course Canterbury house 69, which we now have in full as a timeline concert and they are likely considering to release a 'highlights' CD /2LP.

    One asking for a DVD of a 1976 concert in the US, with a similar reply.

    One very long letter about Neil's guitar tuning prior to 1971, was met with an answer along the lines of: before I played a harp I tuned by ear, after that no longer.
     
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  16. qtrules

    qtrules Forum Resident

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    canada
    cowgirl in the sand, cut from 'way down in the rust bucket', is now on NYA as an outtake!

     
  17. qtrules

    qtrules Forum Resident

    Location:
    canada
    to me, the edit sounds fine. the loss of the 3rd verse isn’t a big deal. the energy and power of the song are all intact. i’m glad the song has made an appearance.
     
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  18. fretbuzzed

    fretbuzzed Forum Resident

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    M16 0RA
    In the last month I have ordered three items CD and DVD's from the European Store and received delivery within two working days,
    one item took three days from order but that was due to the Bank Holiday week-end.
    So I'm sure delivery problems have been sorted out, packages sent from Daventry, NN11. UK.
     
  19. DmitriKaramazov

    DmitriKaramazov Senior Member

    So, it appears the 3 Canterbury shows are now only accessible to Rust and Patron subscribers….. ?

    No longer accessible to Classic subscribers, like me.

    Bummer. I was listening just a week ago, or so. Is this a mistake, by chance?

    P.S.

    The only reason I’ve not upped to Rust is, my “computer” is an iPad, and a lot of the functions still are not available in an iPad. Guess I’ll upgrade soon!
     
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  20. RayS

    RayS A Little Bit Older and a Little Bit Slower

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    Sorry to hear that. I can confirm that they work on Patron level.
     
  21. qtrules

    qtrules Forum Resident

    Location:
    canada
    the concert timeline has always been a rust or above feature. i believe shows are offered to lower level subscribers for a week or two when they first come out.
     
  22. RayS

    RayS A Little Bit Older and a Little Bit Slower

    Location:
    Out of My Element
    The "Concert of the Week" is either history or on hiatus.
     
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  23. DmitriKaramazov

    DmitriKaramazov Senior Member

    Got it thanks. Yeah, I need to upgrade!

    It’s hard to keep up with NYA. So much amazing stuff!
     
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  24. JoeRockhead

    JoeRockhead Forum Resident

    Location:
    New Jersey
    I think it is just the sheer volume of business that is overwhelming the few pressing plants that exist. Is colored vinyl the issue. or just not enough places to press records?
     
  25. JoeRockhead

    JoeRockhead Forum Resident

    Location:
    New Jersey
    Speaking of timeline concerts, I was not aware there is a second show from 2013 - 3/9 and 3/13 are both up there. Is one of those new? Either way, now I know what I am doing for the next 2 hours!
     

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