Old Atlantic 3 CD Box set: Ray Charles "The Birth Of Soul", you should grab this one

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Steve Hoffman, Dec 14, 2011.

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  1. nikosvault

    nikosvault Forum Resident

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    Looks like The Atlantic Studio Albums In Mono is now the best choice for much of this material.

    Plus it's ALL mono.
     
  2. ebro

    ebro The Green Manalishi

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    I have Steve's Uh Huh set and his Anthology disc, very happy with both, but how does this box compare sound wise? One can never have enough Ray Charles.
     
  3. robcar

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    I just noticed that, on this box, there's an extra piano intro with a take announcement from the studio engineer tacked onto the beginning of "I Want To Know". That definitely was not there on the original 1957 single b-side ("Ain't That Love"), nor is it there on at least the later reissues of the Yes Indeed!! LP, which was where the track first appeared on LP over a year after its initial release on the back of the 45. I haven't heard an original 1958 pressing of Yes Indeed!!, although, if the recent mono Atlantic albums box set is truly accurate in terms of representing the original LPs, then the original LP had the same version as the 45, sans intro.*

    I'm now wondering if this "long" version (the rest of the track is the same as the 45, so it's just the intro that was added) ever appeared anywhere else prior to the 1991 release of this box.

    *Note that the original January 1957 Atlantic 45 ("Ain't That Love" b/w "I Want To Know") shows incorrect timing for each track on the label. "I Want To Know" is shown as 3:08, when it is actually 2:08; the 1991 box set version is 2:25 with the studio intro. Discogs also isn't of much help in identifying where this longer version first appeared; it carries the incorrect 3:08 timing forward for all of the early pressings of Yes Indeed!!
     
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  4. robcar

    robcar Forum Resident

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    It looks as though it is possible that this version of "I Want to Know" with the added intro/take number might have first been issued on the 1963 "The Story of Ray Charles, Volume 3" Atlantic compilation LP. I have no access to an original LP (issued in mono only), but the version of this title that is currently on iTunes would seem to contain the same version as The Birth of Soul box, with the short intro. Of course, it's just as likely as anything that iTunes was given a different master for this track than what was used for the original LP in 1963. Discogs shows the erroneous 3:08 timing for this cut on the original LP.
     
  5. hodgo

    hodgo Tea Making Gort (Yorkshire Branch) Staff

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    The "Birth Of Soul" has outstanding SQ and should be everyone's collection, just read our hosts post at the start of the thread.

    You may also find this thread that I started helpful.....

    Ray Charles - Help Me Find The Atlantic Era In The Best Sound Quality!
     
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  6. Beaneydave

    Beaneydave Forum Resident

    I just pick this up from a market stall in Newcastle new for only £12.99!
    Sounds fantastic
    It it really the complete recordings?


    peace and love✌Dave
     
  7. telepicker97

    telepicker97 Got Any Gum?

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    Ordered from amazon - $11.91 + $3.99 shipping.

    Thanks for the tip!
     
  8. Aardvark23

    Aardvark23 Forum Resident

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    How about providing a link for us? Thanks!
     
  9. black sheriff

    black sheriff Magic City

    Go to Amazon.com and copy and paste
    Ray Charles The Birth Of Soul 82310 into the search.
     
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  10. telepicker97

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  11. Mal

    Mal Phorum Physicist

    This box focusses on the Atlantic r&b recordings, leaving the jazz recordings aside. It's pretty much complete in that sense, although it doesn't have "Some Day Baby" and perhaps there are others that slipped through the net. It also omits any live recordings.

    Pure Genius is a complete collection of his Atlantic recordings:

    https://www.amazon.com/Pure-Genius-Complete-Atlantic-Recordings/dp/B000A7KL7U/
     
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  12. bmoregnr

    bmoregnr Forum Rezident

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    This is vinyl only correct?
     
  13. bmoregnr

    bmoregnr Forum Rezident

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    Is Pure Genius on par with Birth Of Soul sound wise? Does it give you mono where Birth Of Soul had stereo? I’ve been going to the MOFIs to get those stereo cuts in mono but I’m not sure I’m loving the sound of those as much as Birth Of Soul.
     
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  14. MartinR

    MartinR Forum Resident

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    And download i think.
     
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  15. Mal

    Mal Phorum Physicist

    You get mono for the r&b recordings mostly ("Tell Me How Do You Feel", "Tell The Truth"and "I'm Movin' On" are stereo) - also included are the stereo mixes of "What'd I Say" and "Carrying That Load" alongside the mono mixes. Some of the jazz recordings are in stereo ("Deed I Do" with Milt Jackson and the 'Fathead' Newman recordings, for example). Except for "Yes Indeed!", the '58 live recordings are stereo, as are the recordings that comprise the big band album The Genius Of Ray Charles.

    Mastering is good overall except for the EQ being a little bright and thin. Still, it's an indispensable set.
     
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  16. Steve Hoffman

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    Bright and thin? Great, my favorite!
     
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  17. Mal

    Mal Phorum Physicist

    I can barely remember what a bass cloud sounds like at this point - still, not much digital jiggery-pokery here at least.
     
  18. rxcory

    rxcory proud marching band parent

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    Man, I started out with Pure Genius, and gleefully ditched it once I found out about Birth Of Soul here on the forum. Pure Genius was bright, thin, and loud.
     
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