Old US Pressing of ‘Beggar's Banquet’ at Correct Speed

The master runs at the correct speed.

And has been pointed out several times above, at least one London pressing was available that played at the correct (faster) speed.

 

That most of us have grown accustomed to it doesn't mean it's correct. If it isn't what the artist intended, then it's wrong.

Are there any Stones collectors who have a bunch of different pressings of BB so that we can determine exactly what pressings were pressed at the correct speed?

 

I just compared my LP, same matrix #s, & it runs the same time as the London (mfsl) cd; both run slower than the sacd. To check my tt, I compared a couple of other LP/CDs, & they were spot on.

 

The numbers are exactly the same? No additional characters?

 

Are the matrix no's on your record hand-etched or machine-stamped? Mine are hand-etched.

 

I have a copy with identical matrix numbers. I'll check it out.

 

Run length of "Sympathy For The Devil" on my copy is 6:22 from the start of track to the last note of the song. From start of "Sympathy" to the start of "No Expectations" is 6:29. Label says 6:14. I verified my table was running precisely at 33.3 (measured with music playing to compensate for any stylus drag) with a KAB speed strobe before playing the track.

Matrix info:
XZAL 8476A-1
XZAL-8477-B ["B" could be an "8," it is hard to tell.]

Side two has a "Bell Sound" stamp and script "sf."

Not sure if that is identical to OP or not.

 

Just double checked, & there is an "AM-" before the "XZAL..." on side A that I hadn't noticed. Nothing extra on the side B. & it was side A that I checked. I'll try a track on side B.

 

Hand etched.

 

No, that one runs slow.

 

Do the speed and the pitch match those found here?

 

Does anyone know if the version of BB released by MOFI as part of the Rolling Stones box set was pressed at the correct (faster) speed?

I was just curious. Thanks in advance.

 

I know it runs slow, but is the matrix info the same as the OP and others reporting faster run times? It seems nearly identical, but perhaps not quite.

 

Yours isn't identical to mine on side 1, but it seems that yours on side 2 is. Check the speed of a song on side 2.

 

A way to check is to play them back at the same time. It is unlikely anything will stay in *perfect* sync, but two with the same speed will roughly stay in sync for several seconds. If you play the faster and slower versions together, they don't stay in sync at all, even for a couple of seconds.

It seems that different cuts had similar matrix numbers. Are yours machine stamped or handwritten?

 

They ALL run slow until the SACD hybrid.

 

Would it be possible to get photos of the actual matrix numbers?

Esszet's clip seems to confirm that is *not* true.

 

Side B also runs slightly slower than the sacd.

 

ABCKO CD
From start of "Sympathy" to the start of "No Expectations" is 6:24.
London CD
From start of "Sympathy" to the start of "No Expectations" is 6:27
Hybrid ABKCO CD
From start of "Sympathy" to the start of "No Expectations" is 6:19

Hybrid BB runs 39:43
London BB runs 40:32

I can sync my Aussie non boxed Stereo BB with the London CD and it's never out of phase.

 

this is getting super geeked out

 

Here (sideways again, sorry).

 

Great, thanks.

No other markings? Monarch delta number?

The album was mixed in LA, so it seems possible that a cut was made there from the masters and used for West Coast pressings, with a tape copy (copies?) being sent to NYC and the UK.

 

Sorry, but what's a Monarch delta number?

 

there should be a triangle somewhere in the dead wax and a number. You can narrow down the pressing date with that number.