Ortofon Concorde Elite cartridge

Discussion in 'Audio Hardware' started by intoaudio, Jan 26, 2023.

  1. intoaudio

    intoaudio Active Member Thread Starter

    Location:
    Arkansas
    Hi group,
    Just bought one for my Technics SL1200GR. Ortofon says not to use solvents when you clean the stylus.
    I have been using the Mofi stylus cleaner, which has a solvent you spread on the brush and then clean the stylus.

    What non-solvent options have you used with success? I've never done that before and am interested in your feedback. Much appreciated.
     
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  2. arem

    arem Forum Resident

    I use the round Mofi brush dry for most cleaning on my Concorde. If the stylus seems to need extra attention I have a Moongel pad that I use the same way you would use the Onzow Zerodust. I’ve never needed anything else. If your records are decently clean you shouldn’t either.
     
  3. Boltman92124

    Boltman92124 Go Padres!!

    Location:
    San Diego
    How do you like the Elite so far? I got a Concorde Club Mk2 last month and it has exceeded my expectations! I don't want to put the AT carts back on at all! It is smooth and powerful after some break in time. Just great with rock and modern jazz fusion. I could fit the Elite stylus on it if desired too. I'm becoming a Concorde convert!!
     
  4. Boltman92124

    Boltman92124 Go Padres!!

    Location:
    San Diego
    PS- Ortofon says not to use liquid cleaners on their styli. I would take them at their word.
     
  5. Agitater

    Agitater Forum Resident

    Location:
    Toronto
    Ortofon supplies a perfectly good, small, well-made stylus brush with their cartridges. I think that’s the best thing to use.

    I suggest avoiding the usage mistake I’ve seen some audiophiles making though - brushing blindly. Use it as only directed in the little instruction blurb, and use a chair or stool or what-have-you to comfortably position yourself to get a direct, non-awkward, non-contorted view of the stylus. A couple of gentle sweeps from back to front and you’re done.

    The problem with solvent/liquid cleaners is that, in some cases, the bond between the stylus and the cantilever (with a glued-up stylus, that is) can be gradually weakened 0ver time due to excessive cleaning with solvent. I know all sorts of people who’ve been using stylus cleaning liquids of various brands and formulations for years without any problems, but mainly because they maintain very clean, essentially dust-free LPs, that are stored in high-quality anti-static inner sleeves. That means they’ve only had to clean a stylus not much more than once a month, and quite often only once every couple of months. Not excessive, in other words.

    Unless you’ve got a high-power magnifier that can give you a good look at whether a stylus is actually in need of cleaning, it’s inadvisable to just repeatedly use a cleaning liquid (or a stylus dry brush) every two or three LPs. In the few instances I’ve come across where the audiophile was doing exactly that - habitually cleaning an expensive stylus every two or three plays - de-bonding or snagging eventually occurred. In one instance, excessive cleaning resulted in physical damage caused by a slip of the applicator brush used with the liquid. Expensive bad news.

    In another instance, a purported music lover was substituting frequent stylus cleaning (every second LP) for good LP surface maintenance. Of course his stylus collected a ton of grime with almost every play, but rather than begin a better LP maintenance regime he just doubled-down on stylus cleaning. The result was an Accuphase cartridge that had to be sent away for a rather pricey rebuild.

    In another instance, an otherwise very bright guy I know managed to Swiffer-snag his stylus while being assiduously anal about keeping his turntable plinth and top rack shelf dust-free. You could have heard the screamed “NOOOOoooooooo!” on Mars. A nice Rega Apheta 2 bit the dust that time, but the suspension wasn’t damaged and the cart ended up being sent to SoundSmith for retipping.
     

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