Paul McCartney/Wings-song by song thread

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Bemagnus, Sep 11, 2019.

  1. kaztor

    kaztor How I feel when there is no coffee? Depresso.

    Suzy And The Red Stripes - B-Side To Seaside:
    The more sophisticated flip to SW does sound like it’s recorded in a different time-frame (very mid-70’s).
    It’s pretty weird and experimental, the kinda thing Blondie might throw on an album or b-side, but it’s honestly hard to categorize. I’m almost tempted to call it proto wave. Imagine this making it on ATSOS instead of Cook Of The House! The mind boggles...

    And then for a complete 180°, here’s...

    Mull Of Kintyre:
    Blah, blah and blah... errr no!!! I LOVE this song!!
    Yes, I do and I don’t care.
    The folky and cozy atmosphere simply hits the spot for me. I’m supposed to call it cheesy to save my oh so precious coolness credentials... whatever, I just love this! It’s got an all-around-the-fire mood, very comforting, and it’s perfect for this time of year as well. And in the end (‘woohooh!!!’) you just imagine beer a-flowing and raising the glass for a big group toast! :cheers:
     
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  2. kaztor

    kaztor How I feel when there is no coffee? Depresso.

    The guitar part reminds me a bit of the Isley Brothers’ That Lady.
     
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  3. Bemagnus

    Bemagnus Music is fun Thread Starter

    I can understand Mull of Kintyre alienates some listeners. It definively ain t rock and neither is it pop. On top of it all it features bag-pipes.
    This song only strengheten my point that McCartney works above musical genres. At least when he feels like it
    In this case he felt like paying a tribute to a part of Scotland he knew and loved both lyrically and musically. On the way he succeeded in having to that date the fastest and biggest selling season single of all time in UK. So there is no doubt this national-romantic epic resonated deep within many people in the UK. Probably folks far away from the usual rock-audience.
    This success woul d not have been possible if the song didn’t t contain both great melody and great lyrical images. Which it does in spade. The melodic build up is perfect -the patterns are absolutely timeless. The chorus is just made for chants and sing-alongs. I guess one never have heard the song proper unless one heard it sung on a pub in northern England or Scotland land. I’ve had the honor and it s an amazing experience
    I would go as far as to claim that s song is as masterful as anything he ever has done
    It made got be soft but this song still gives me goose-bumps
    A classic in every sense
    Also another proof that Paul ain t afraid to do what he feels like instead of the expected. He surely must have known a song long like this was up for criticism. At the same time he could not have a clue it would be such a tremendous succes. He just followed his own path-again.
    Credit also to Denny Laine who apparently helped out getting some of the words right
     
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  4. Paul Gase

    Paul Gase Everything is cheaper than it looks.

    Location:
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    Mull of Kintyre is a strange one for me. As a big Wings/Paul fan in the US, this song made absolutely no sense upon its release. I have never heard this on the radio except for "Breakfast With The Beatles" type programs.

    But, the other side of the single got some decent airplay, though it certainly didn't feel like a real A side "this is our next hit" performance. More on that in a bit.

    Over the years, and with context, I've grown quite fond of Mull of Kintyre. The recording itself is a big part of the charm: heavily compressed acoustic guitars - so gooey with compression that you can almost touch them; the harmonies from Denny and Linda are great, and benefit from the key modulations, keeping a simple song interesting; there is lots of ambience on this recording - as described in the notes above - and a fair amount of tape hiss - I mean a lot - that makes it feel like a DIY field recording that's been doctored up in the studio. I like that aspect of the song very much.

    But, in my own recollections within the timeline we are following - this song meant very little to me or to US radio back in 1977. It would take time for me to consider this a great Wings tune.
     
  5. Ludger

    Ludger IsThisAllReal,IsThisAllNecessary,OrIsThisAJoke?

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    This thread's too fast for me!
    Concerning Soily: I don't get the love for that song. Never liked it much. It DOES rock but not in a nice way. Musically very weak IMO.
     
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  6. Bemagnus

    Bemagnus Music is fun Thread Starter

    As shown it did good outside of theUSA

    Chart performanceEdit
    Weekly chartsEdit
    Chart (1977–78) Peak
    position

    UK Singles Chart[21] 1
    Australian Kent Music Report 1
    Austrian Singles Chart[22] 1
    Belgian Singles Chart[23] 1
    Canada RPM Hot 100 44
    Dutch Singles Chart 1
    German Media Control Singles Chart 1
    Irish Singles Chart 1
    New Zealand (RIANZ) 1
    Norwegian VG-lista Singles Chart[22] 2
    Spain (AFE) (along with Girls' School)[24] 5
    Swedish Singles Chart[22] 14
    Swiss Singles Chart[22] 1
    Japanese Oricon Singles Chart[25] 69
    US Billboard Adult Contemporary[26] 45
     
  7. Bemagnus

    Bemagnus Music is fun Thread Starter

    I love Glen Campbell and I love Mull of Kintyre. Guess this can t go wrong
     
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  8. Bemagnus

    Bemagnus Music is fun Thread Starter

    Another cover
     
  9. Bemagnus

    Bemagnus Music is fun Thread Starter

    Such a beautiful version. There are plenty of those out there a proof that this song has become part of a lore. A true classic and a song that just as well could have been written 200 years ago
     
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  10. streetlegal

    streetlegal Forum Resident

    "Mull of Kintyre" was number 1 in the UK this month in 1977 and remained number one for 9 weeks. Which felt like forever. I always associate it with the Christmas season.
     
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  11. WilliamWes

    WilliamWes Forum Resident

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    New York
    B-Side To Seaside (6/10)
    I like the nature of this one too. The different texture show how Paul had been experimenting more with synthesizers back from when the 1976 tour was completed. They’re used here impressively and we'll hear more synths on his next album. This is a much better companion to the A-side than the B-side version of “Give Ireland To The Irish” was to its a-side.

    Mull Of Kintyre (9/10)
    The audio setup of acoustic guitar later culminating in a full on bagpipe fiesta is just another great Paul production moment. Its authenticity can’t be questioned and his lyric dedicated to Scotland doesn’t ring hollow. Something about this melody is proper but stronger than the proper “Warm And Beautiful” which has a similar sentimentality. The bagpipes do kind of drown out the rhythm section with only the vocals standing above but man what a chorus hook. The song lives out of that chorus and the verse melodies sound timeless too. It’s got a European vibe that the U.S. didn’t quite bond with but as the biggest UK single ever up to that point, it should have done better here. I personally like some of their other singles better but this has potency.

    As well as the success that has been mentioned, I think Paul's natural love for Scotland led to a great idea about tributing Scotland. I don't think there were many rockers or anyone doing a big tribute for Scotland. Seemed like an untapped market and Europe appreciated the song as much as the idea of a song for Scotland. But even if others did Scotland songs, this would stand out. Also the lyric resonates more than almost any of his 70's work - the song was a hit partially because of the lyrics and not just cause of the music.
     
  12. omikron

    omikron Avid contributor to Paul McCartney's bank account

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    Seaside Woman: 3/5 The lost slice of reggae in Wings’ catalogue as compared to C Moon. Wings rallies together to really make this a workable track with some good guitar work. I like the earlier versions before the bloated synthed-out 80s version.




    B-side To Seaside: 3.5/5 I actually like this one better than the A side. The child-like lilt in the melody works well for Linda's voice. I also like the homonym work: Seaside/C-Side in the lyrics.

    It’s only possible if you have a Seaside which is the A-side to your B-side so your B-side is the B-side to Seaside which indeed is more than the A-side but really becomes a C-side because it's after your B-side which is after your A-side which is actually a Seaside! Get it!?




    Mull of Kintyre: 5/5 A master class in how to take a simple folk song and slowly build it up into a towering goliath of power. The pipes just go right through you. You simply can’t help but be moved.
     
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  13. Paul Gase

    Paul Gase Everything is cheaper than it looks.

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    Questions: the details about Mull explain that the song was taped during a break in the London Town sessions in August 1977.

    Were Jimmy and Joe E still in Wings in Aug 1977 and this was simply recorded during a break (maybe Jimmy and Joe were on holiday)? Or had they already departed by August 1977?
     
  14. kaztor

    kaztor How I feel when there is no coffee? Depresso.

    It’s cool to think that he still drops songs here and there inbetween albums, as he did recently with two really solid songs. That’s where sheer creativity goes hand in hand with a restless spirit and a sense of timing.
     
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  15. coco77

    coco77 Forum Resident

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    they were also working on holly days in this time period right? I know it wasn’t a big production but it’s cool to think about. I really like a lot of his demos and outtakes from around this time too!
     
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  16. RickH

    RickH Senior Member

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    I’m hoping that’s something he and others do more often. I think the streaming model is taking music back to the days of the single, or short EP.
     
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  17. kaztor

    kaztor How I feel when there is no coffee? Depresso.

    For someone like Paul it’s weird to have an album sitting on the shelves for so long. LT got a summer 1978 release, almost a year after the recording (for comparison, recording ATSOS and releasing it happened in, like, 3 months), and you immediately hear that LT and Mull/School are cut from the same cloth, and that single preceded LT by 7 months. Is it because he needed that time to toy around with a new band line-up?
    When did Steve Holly and Laurence Juber exactly join? I do know they appear in the promo for With A Little Luck.

    This gap inbetween releases is quite weird in his discography, as 1979/1980 sees a flurry of activity again with albums and singles alike.
     
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  18. kaztor

    kaztor How I feel when there is no coffee? Depresso.

    Yeah, I think that got mentioned in the Take It Away podcast for LT. Have to look it up again.

    Speaking of...

    Episode 0 – An Introduction

    Episode 1 – McCartney

    Episode 2 – Ram – Part 1 of 2

    Episode 3 – Ram – Part 2 of 2

    Episode 4 – Wild Life

    Episode 5 – Red Rose Speedway

    Episode 6 – Band on the Run

    Episode 7 – Venus and Mars

    Episode 8 – Wings at the Speed of Sound
     
  19. Piiijiii

    Piiijiii Forum Resident

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    Soily 3/5 ~ works as a high energy live track

    Mull Of Kintyre 5/5 ~ is this a guilty pleasure? Sod it! Loving it :love:
     
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  20. Pines Brook

    Pines Brook That sums up Squatter for me

    Location:
    New York, NY
    Catching up a little:

    Must Do Something About It is a great little tune, even if it's so innocuous and passive. I mean, the guy is just kind of hanging around thinking of doing something instead of doing something! I love Joe English's vocals on it. I was very excited to hear McCartney's demo vocal version, but I found that I still prefer English's version. Maybe the demo was an early throwaway, but English's phrasing and stricter timing is an improvement. Again maybe nothing incredible, but I think he's got a surprisingly nice voice, more pleasing than one or two other members of Wings possibly.

    San Ferry Anne is pleasant but it's sort of like a blander version of Mrs. Vanderbilt, which I never loved to begin with. It works in the context of the album OK but I would not single it out for listening.

    Warm and Beautiful, I'm not a super fan of. I think he has the first half of a great and moving melody, but the second half of it just kind of peters out. I enjoy it for what it is, but like I suppose a lot of McCartney's work, sometimes I wonder if he could have labored a little longer on certain things, instead of just sort of letting whatever comes out be what it is, because it seems like the latter a lot of times, though when you are Paul McCartney, I can certainly understand why he trusted his instincts.

    Soily, yecch. McCartney sounds great vocally on it on WOA, but the chorus, and the title, which may forever remind me of a dirty diaper or something, just doesn't work for me. For every Jet or Junior's Farm type rocker, he had a Helen Wheels or Soily that just didn't really cross the finish line for me.
     
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  21. Bemagnus

    Bemagnus Music is fun Thread Starter

    To prove the greatness of Mull of Kintyre I here bring on a rare but spectacular version
    Enjoy
     
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  22. kaztor

    kaztor How I feel when there is no coffee? Depresso.

    Listening to the Take It Away podcast of ATSOS right now I realize I’ve been a bit too hard on Wino Junko.
    It’s actually pretty decent, honestly. I like the vocal harmony, although Paul should’ve sung it. That would have made a difference.
     
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  23. Bemagnus

    Bemagnus Music is fun Thread Starter

    In case anyone wondered how it would sound if Bing Crosby sang Wings here is the answer
     
  24. BZync

    BZync Senior Member

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    Los Angeles
    Agreed. Honestly, Love In Song isn't a favorite of mine either. He'd do much better with I'm Carrying on the next album.
     
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  25. BZync

    BZync Senior Member

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    Los Angeles
    Mull Of Kintyre - this is one of my favorite McCartney songs. Maybe because its never been overplayed here in the US. It felt like my little secret. I recall Girls School being played on the radio for a minute. But Mull of Kintyre was special. IMO, it has aged beautifully. The melody has a timeless quality to it so it doesn't sound dated to my ears one bit.

    I can still see the black label to the single in my mind. Brings me right back to high school.
     

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