Pink Floyd in Hi-Res at HDtracks

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by MemoInPR, Oct 19, 2021.

  1. mmars982

    mmars982 Forum Resident

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    It might depend on the phone and player you are using. They need to support Hires audio. My Galaxy phone doesn't have a headphone jack, so I need to use a USB DAC. I also use the Neutron app as my player, which supports hires.
     
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  2. Cast Iron Shore

    Cast Iron Shore Forum Resident

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    That’s wonderful! I’m so happy to have these unlimited.
     
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  3. QuartzSTQ

    QuartzSTQ Member

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    FYI if you don't know already but you can highlight individual peaks using View > Show Clipping with red lines accross the whole sample (well, if you zoom in at least) and you can also analyse the audio for actual clipping an it'll create a maker track with markers at the beginning and end of the clipping.
     
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  4. mikehbkwm

    mikehbkwm Forum Resident

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    Here is Time from DSOTM. Top pic is the HDtracks.com 96/24 release and the bottom is the 2011 CD. Pretty damn confident they are the same remaster.

    Time 96/24 HDtracks.com
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    Tim 2011 CD Remaster
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  5. Tunaboy

    Tunaboy Forum Resident

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    Is there much of a difference between apple,tidal hires of these titles and hdtracks?

    I use the cobalt dac with tidal

    thank you
     
  6. Merrick

    Merrick The return of the Thin White Duke

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    The only difference would be if Tidal is forcing everything through an MQA conversion. If not, then no differences.
     
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  7. MOB_HRV

    MOB_HRV Forum Resident

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    If you intend to buy the 24/96 versions of Dark Side Of The Moon or The Wall, avoid Qobuz for these 2 albums!

    Someone at Qobuz has replaced the tracks The Great Gig In The Sky, Money, Brain Damage, Eclipse, The Happiest Days Of Our Lives, Another Brick In The Wall Pt.2, Hey You and Confortably Numb, by the 24/192 versions taken from "A Foot In The Door" compilation. And of course, it totally ruins the continuity of the album tracks! You can even hear the end of See Emily Play at the start of The Happiest Days Of Our Lives! :mad: :thumbsdow
    The versions on HDTracks are 24/96 and correct.
     
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  8. rontoon

    rontoon Animaniac

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    Thanks, MOB!
     
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  9. Steve Martin

    Steve Martin Wild & Crazy Guy

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    More Dolby Audio (5.1 mixes) available on Apple Music

    David Gilmour - Live in Gdansk
    David Gilmour - Live at Pompeii
    David Gilmour - Rattle That Lock
    Pink Floyd - Delicate Sound of Thunder
     
  10. dtuck90

    dtuck90 Forum Resident

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    This is also the case on Apple Music
     
  11. Rigoberto

    Rigoberto Forum Resident

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    In that format The Wall would be on a single disc.
     
  12. Jerry Horne

    Jerry Horne WYWH (1975-2025)

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    I'm not a hi-res expert so I have a question. I listen to hi-res on a hard drive going into my OPPO-203 and then my OPPO HA-1 headphone amp.

    If I have a choice between 24/96 and 24/192, shouldn't I choose the latter every time?
     
  13. Joint Attention

    Joint Attention Forum Resident

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    Thanks for posting. HDTracks is cheaper than Qobuz right now with the coupon anyway.
     
  14. SammyU

    SammyU Forum Resident

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    Can anyone confirm the HD Tracks version of these albums have the correct files?
     
    Last edited: Oct 19, 2021
  15. Dr. Pepper

    Dr. Pepper What, me worry?

    If they are both from the same source then yes, as far as I know.
     
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  16. Carbo56

    Carbo56 Forum Resident

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    I have the HDTracks downloads and they are correct. Apple Music is also correct. Tidal is also correct. I cannot comment about Qobuz. I am located in the US, not sure if that makes a difference.
     
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  17. Carbo56

    Carbo56 Forum Resident

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    Apple Music in the US is correct, I checked it just now.
     
  18. austinpop

    austinpop Well-Known Member

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    At least streamed on Qobuz US, all the tracks @MOB_HRV mentioned are streaming at 24/96, just like the adjacent tracks. Could this be a download store-only issue?
     
  19. Gamer_299

    Gamer_299 Well-Known Member

    amazon music is correct, ive been listening to it all day.
    EDIT: In the US
     
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  20. nickleb474

    nickleb474 Active Member

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    I've been streaming DSOTM and The Wall from Qobuz in 24/96 and I am not experiencing any incorrect tracks, no See Emily Play at the end of The Happiest Days of Our Lives for example. I am located in the US and have not purchased, just streamed.
     
  21. Rigoberto

    Rigoberto Forum Resident

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    I just purchased A Foot In The Door. I went to download it and got Dreamboat Annie instead. I clicked on Cancel.

    It says Dreamboat Annie on my receipt too! Idiots! I did not even look at Dreamboat Annie so it can't be my fault.
     
  22. Kristofa

    Kristofa Enthusiast of small convenient sound carrier units

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    Through which service, Rigoberto?
     
  23. HiResGeek

    HiResGeek Seer of visions

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    I looked at the waveforms, and I think the Immersion DSotM uses the same mastering, but the Immersion WYWH does not. If you look closely, you'll notice weird anomalies in the two WYWH waveform screencaps below, whilst the Dark Side screencaps look more or less identical, except that the levels are slightly lower on Immersion. First track is anomalous though - very different DR levels and peak levels - not sure what's going on there, tbh...

    Dark Side Immersion
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    Analyzed: Pink Floyd / Dark Side of the Moon (hi res stereo Immersion Mix)
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    DR Peak RMS Duration Track
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    DR12 -4.05 dB -21.28 dB 1:13 01-Speak to Me
    DR11 -2.33 dB -15.99 dB 2:51 02-Breathe
    DR10 -1.58 dB -17.43 dB 3:31 03-On the Run
    DR10 -2.02 dB -15.01 dB 7:08 04-Time
    DR9 -1.72 dB -16.51 dB 4:43 05-The Great Gig in the Sky
    DR11 -0.42 dB -14.72 dB 6:26 06-Money
    DR10 -2.66 dB -16.54 dB 7:48 07-Us and Them
    DR11 -0.63 dB -14.59 dB 3:25 08-Any Colour You Like
    DR11 -1.36 dB -16.20 dB 3:52 09-Brain Damage
    DR9 -0.56 dB -13.11 dB 2:04 10-Eclipse
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Number of tracks: 10
    Official DR value: DR10

    Samplerate: 96000 Hz
    Channels: 2
    Bits per sample: 24
    Bitrate: 2824 kbps
    Codec: FLAC
    ================================================================================

    Dark Side HDTracks

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    Analyzed: Pink Floyd / The Dark Side of the Moon [24-96] (HDTracks)
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    DR Peak RMS Duration Track
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    DR9 -9.51 dB -22.56 dB 1:04 01-Speak to Me
    DR11 -2.28 dB -15.82 dB 2:50 02-Breathe (In the Air)
    DR10 -1.59 dB -17.25 dB 3:36 03-On the Run
    DR10 -1.93 dB -14.87 dB 7:03 04-Time
    DR9 -1.69 dB -16.43 dB 4:44 05-The Great Gig in the Sky
    DR11 -0.39 dB -14.59 dB 6:20 06-Money
    DR9 -2.50 dB -16.56 dB 7:53 07-Us and Them
    DR11 -0.59 dB -14.43 dB 3:26 08-Any Colour You Like
    DR11 -1.31 dB -16.39 dB 3:50 09-Brain Damage
    DR8 -0.50 dB -12.86 dB 2:07 10-Eclipse
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Number of tracks: 10
    Official DR value: DR10

    Samplerate: 96000 Hz
    Channels: 2
    Bits per sample: 24
    Bitrate: 2778 kbps
    Codec: FLAC
    ================================================================================

    WYWH Immersion

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    Analyzed: Pink Floyd / Wish You Were Here (hi res stereo Immersion Mix)
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    DR Peak RMS Duration Track
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    DR12 -0.51 dB -16.00 dB 13:28 01-Shine On You Crazy Diamond, Pts. I - V
    DR11 -0.38 dB -15.73 dB 7:33 02-Welcome to the Machine
    DR12 -0.63 dB -14.79 dB 5:10 03-Have a Cigar
    DR12 -0.64 dB -17.89 dB 5:36 04-Wish You Were Here
    DR11 -0.85 dB -15.70 dB 12:35 05-Shine On You Crazy DIamond, Pts. VI - IX
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Number of tracks: 5
    Official DR value: DR12

    Samplerate: 96000 Hz
    Channels: 2
    Bits per sample: 24
    Bitrate: 3007 kbps
    Codec: FLAC
    ================================================================================

    WYWH HDTracks

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    Analyzed: Pink Floyd / Wish You Were Here [24-192] (HDTracks)
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    DR Peak RMS Duration Track
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    DR12 -2.97 dB -17.94 dB 13:30 01-Shine On You Crazy Diamond (Pts. 1-5)
    DR11 -3.06 dB -17.48 dB 7:33 02-Welcome to the Machine
    DR12 -3.03 dB -17.13 dB 5:07 03-Have a Cigar
    DR12 -3.02 dB -20.22 dB 5:38 04-Wish You Were Here
    DR11 -3.06 dB -18.21 dB 12:24 05-Shine On You Crazy Diamond (Pts. 6-9)
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Number of tracks: 5
    Official DR value: DR12

    Samplerate: 192000 Hz
    Channels: 2
    Bits per sample: 24
    Bitrate: 5424 kbps
    Codec: FLAC
    ================================================================================


    Waveform samples

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    Last edited: Oct 19, 2021
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  24. Rigoberto

    Rigoberto Forum Resident

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    HD Tracks.. and they even claim I downloaded the entire thing even though I clicked on cancel immediately. All I got was part of track 02 and a .jpg file. Their software is junk. It should at least tell me what is about to be downloaded. They used to have better downloading software than this.

    They also said I put Dreamboat Annie into the basket. Crazy! I did not even look at Dreamboat Annie.

    Of course if I had checked the receipt first I could have avoided the problem.
     
  25. eeglug

    eeglug Senior Member

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    Chicago, IL, USA
    I bought The Wall (24/96 version) from Qobuz and have no issues with my copy. (I previously posted about issues with Piper from Qobuz)
     

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