Pink Floyd The Wall on LP

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  1. marcb

    marcb Senior Member

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    DC area
    Sort of. Even though they're all cut at TML, you'll find few sides in any single LP package that were even all cut on the same TML lathe. So there is going to be nuanced variability between pressings. To say one country's pressing is unquestionably superior based on anecdotal evidence is silly.

    I happen to like my German copy over the US copy because they sound basically the same and is on noticeably quieter vinyl. I certainly can't say that's universally true for The Wall (but I would say it is generally true for 70's-80's era vinyl); I have no doubt there are some US copies that sound "better" than German copies (whatever that is) and vice versa.
     
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  2. Larry L

    Larry L Senior Member

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    Allen, Texas
    FWIW, I have a US that was bought early 80s at very latest, all 4 sides have TML stamped, with another initial.
    side 1 TML-M
    side 2 TML-S
    side 3 TML-M
    side 4 TML-M
     
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  3. c-eling

    c-eling Dinner's In The Microwave Sweety

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  4. marcb

    marcb Senior Member

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    Two different lathes at TML.
     
  5. Smegman

    Smegman Forum Resident

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    Brazil
    This is interesting:

     
  6. paolo

    paolo Senior Member

    I think the original AU issue used TML masters. Later versions were recut but my copy from 1984 still has 2 of the 4 sides with TML lettering. The others have the standard SBPXXXXX matrix info inscribed with what I call a “seagull” marking. It looks like a child’s version of a bird in the sky - an elongated “M” if that makes any sense. Always wondered who that belonged to.
     
  7. marcb

    marcb Senior Member

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    The name escapes me, but I believe he worked in Allen Zentz’s house. I’ll see if I can track down the name.

    Edit: It’s Brian Gardiner. I think he also used a flower looking marking as well.
     
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  8. Colocally

    Colocally One Of The New Wave Boys

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    Surrey BC.
    I have a Canadian copy, my first piece of Floyd vinyl actually in 2014 and it’s good enough that it’s the only album of theirs I haven’t bought in the new reissues series.
     
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  9. Dr. Funk

    Dr. Funk Vintage Dust

    Location:
    Fort Worth TX
    My early US with TML stamped on all four sides is the best I've heard.
     
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  10. pmdclassics

    pmdclassics Forum Resident

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    Bismarck ND
    From my experience over the years the US TML version has an outstanding soundstage but the recycled, cheap vinyl used in those days does not hold up to even the slightest mishandling. Crackle galore. Maybe the foreign pressers used better quality vinyl and it is quieter??
     
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  11. marcb

    marcb Senior Member

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    I have a German copy. It has some ticks here and there, but has a much lower noise floor.
     
  12. pmdclassics

    pmdclassics Forum Resident

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    Good to know. I have lots of German presses in my collection and all are great including a recent purchase of The Beatles 1st press of the White Album. Plus they are priced less than Japan pressings.
     
  13. Pappas3278

    Pappas3278 Forum Peasant

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    New York City
    I tried twice with UK copies and they are both riddled with crackle. Like a ridiculous amount. And the records "look" mint! I cleaned both copies several times.

    Sorry, nothing constructive to add.
     
  14. Dr. Funk

    Dr. Funk Vintage Dust

    Location:
    Fort Worth TX
    I have a tad bit of surface noise on my US copy, but not enough to distract from the great sonics. It's not as quiet as my 2016 Grundman reissue..........by the way, one could do a lot worse when it comes to the latest reissue. Not a bad option for $35 :pleased:
     
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  15. marcb

    marcb Senior Member

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    I forget to mention the German copy was a TML cut on just 3 of the 4 sides IIRC, but there was no discernable tonal, clarity or level difference in the side lacking the TML stamp. If I had to guess, I’d say it was also cut at TML but for whatever reason wasn’t stamped.
     
  16. Uglyversal

    Uglyversal Forum Resident

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    Sydney
    Hi,

    How early are your UK and AU versions? I have the two (x2UK), I think the Australian is not bad but when compared to the UK I couldn't say they sound similar at all.

    To my ears the UK has a lot more going for it much better highs, lows and voices are much more defined than on the Australian version. My UK discs range around the 2U 3U numbers.
     
  17. Spinmeout

    Spinmeout Forum Resident

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    Australia
    I have an original Australian press, nothing else to compare to but I think it sounds great.

    Interesting that you liked the French, I have an original french press of a saucerful of secrets and it's dead quiet and sounds fantastic.
     
  18. Echoes Myron

    Echoes Myron Forum Resident

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    USA
    The US TML is a powerful slab. I like the 2016 too. Time to give these a spin soon.
     
  19. Nomadicarchivist

    Nomadicarchivist Forum Resident

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    Washington D.C.
    I have long since given up on finding a good vinyl copy of Pink Floyd's The Wall at the local record stores for under $20 or so, so I'm gonna bite the bullet and buy a good one.

    My question: What is the best vinyl pressing?
    I have seen plenty original U.S. vs original UK debates. I have also seen folks claim to have happily paid $200 for the Japanese pressing...

    Not sure...
     
  20. xfilian

    xfilian Forum Resident

    Location:
    Essex, UK
    I have not heard a US pressing but I have a fantastic early UK pressing and it is one of the best sounding pieces of vinyl I own, full stop. True jaw dropping, reference quality stuff. The early pressings have a plastic Pink Floyd The Wall sticker included with the album and also there are no band member credits on the right hand side of the inner gatefold - only "Words and Music - Roger Waters. Except..." and "Produced By David Gilmour, Bob Ezrin, Roger Waters". This the the one to go for.
     
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  21. Echoes Myron

    Echoes Myron Forum Resident

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    USA
    Have you heard the reissue? I think it is excellent. Right up there with the original US TML (of which I have a few).

    The reissue had great clarity, particularly in the acoustic guitars and various sound effects. Does not lack any of the slam of the original (my test track for bass slam is "Run Like Hell").

    It is difficult to find a quiet US pressing, particularly side 3 which most owners played the most!
     
  22. BDC

    BDC Forum Resident

    Location:
    Tacoma
    I've never heard a 1st press UK, but I always thought my copy I bought in 1980 sounded great. I have the newer LP remaster these days and it's pretty good, but I think the original was better. I lost to other bidders on Ebay repeatedly before settling on the newer 180g. The new one is packaged nicely IMO. The cardboard inner sleeves beat out the old cheap paper.
     
  23. Echoes Myron

    Echoes Myron Forum Resident

    Location:
    USA
    Agree it is a high quality package but I put the LPs in MOFI sleeves. Those cardboard inners are tough on vinyl.
     
  24. Vinylfindco

    Vinylfindco The Pressing Matters

    Location:
    Miami
    A Japanese version was on the Absolute Sound Superdisc List for decades. That's the one I have and I feel no need for another. It's stunning. I don't have thecatalog number handy but I'll post it when I can.
     
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  25. Psychedelic Good Trip

    Psychedelic Good Trip Beautiful Psychedelic Colors Everywhere

    Location:
    New York
    Have the first American TML stamped 1979, and 1979 promo U.S. stamp vinyl the 2012 pressing and the 2016.

    How do you like the 2016? Just asking.
     
    Last edited: Oct 12, 2018

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