Question about 4K Ultra HD movies.

I recently bought "The Shining" on 4K Blu-ray and it was edited and some scenes were missing. For me it ruined part of the movie experience. I didn't notice it at first but after I watched the extras, it all came back.

My question is, "are the movies that are redone in 4K shorter than others in DVD or Blu-ray, is it a size thing?"

Most notable was the scene where the plants trimmed like animals moved around. It just skipped the whole thing.

 

I'm unaware of any differences between "Shining" on 4K vs. DVD or BD.

 

Shrubs shaped like animals were only in the TV movie (and the book). In Kubrick Shining it is a hedge maze.

 

Movies don't need to be edited for 4K release. The discs have plenty of capacity.

The Shining had different edits done for its original theatrical release, and I don't know what's been used on home video to date because I only saw the film once (upon its original release) and have no interest in seeing it again.

 

You’re conflating two different versions of The Shining. These scenes were never shot for Kubrick’s because they couldn’t figure out a convincing way to shoot it so dropped it in favor of the maze. No, unless noted 4K transfers are not edited. ‘The Shining” version released in the U.S. on 4K is the same as the theatrical cut that played here minus two minutes cut a couple<of weeks into the release of the film. The UK release is shorter. I’ve never seen it but according to Wikipedia:
When released theatrically in the United States, the film ran approx. 146 minutes. However, as explained above, less than one week into its release, Kubrick cut the 2 minute coda from the end of the film, reducing its length to 144 minutes. After meeting with poor reviews and erratic box office, Kubrick decided to further edit the film for its theatrical release outside the US. He cut approximately 31 minutes of footage, reducing the length to 113 minutes. The 144 minute 'US version' is often erroneously called the director's cut when in fact director Kubrick regards both the 119 minute version and the 144 minute version as director's cuts. Nevertheless, the longer version is the version now most commonly available. The following is a list of all the scenes or parts of scenes not present in the shorter 'European version':

• After the first scene with Wendy (Shelley Duvall) and Danny (Danny Lloyd), the film cuts back to Jack (Jack Nicholson) at the Overlook, where his interview with Stuart Ullman (Barry Nelson) continues. Jack is introduced to Bill Watson (Barry Dennen), and Ullman tells Watson that Jack used to work as a schoolteacher. Jack says he became a writer because he needed a change in his life. Ullman then explains that the Overlook is closed every winter from the end of October to the following May, because it would be too expensive to keep the roads open, and he points out that the site was chosen specifically for its seclusion.
• When Danny first 'sees' the Grady twins in his bathroom at home, he blacks out. When he awakes, he is being examined by a doctor (Anne Jackson). This entire examination scene, and the subsequent conversations were all cut. Danny says that before his black-out he was talking to Tony, "the little boy who lives inside my mouth". Wendy and the Doctor then talk in private, and Wendy mentions an incident in which Jack dislocated Danny's shoulder in a drunken fit of temper, at which time he swore never to touch alcohol again. That was five months ago, and since then, he has kept his word.
• During their tour of the Overlook, Jack and Wendy are brought into the Colorado Lounge, and Wendy asks if the Indian designs are authentic. Ullman explains that they are based on ancient Navajo and Apache motifs. He then mentions the prestigious history of the hotel, saying it was a stopping place for the jet set, for four presidents, movie stars and "all the best people".
• The beginning of the scene where Ullman shows Jack and Wendy the hotel grounds has been cut. He points out "our famous hedge maze" and warns them not to go in unless they have an hour or so to spare.
• Prior to the introduction of Dick Hallorann (Scatman Crothers), Ullman shows off The Gold Room and explains that all liquor is removed during the winter so as to reduce insurance costs. Hallorann is then introduced, and the secretary Susie (Alison Coleridge) appears, having found Danny outside the games room. Ullman then leaves with Jack, and Hallorann takes Wendy around the kitchen.
• Some of Danny's conversation with Hallorann has been cut. Danny asks Hallorann if he is scared of the Overlook, and Hallorann replies that he isn't, but that "some places are like people, some shine and some don't. I guess you could say the Overlook Hotel here has something about it that's like shining."
• The first few shots of Wendy wheeling the breakfast tray through the corridors have been cut.
• The end of the scene where Wendy brings Jack his breakfast has been cut. He comments that he has never been as happy or as comfortable anywhere as he is in the Overlook and Wendy reveals that she thought the place was scary when they first arrived. Jack replies that he fell in love with it straight away and he felt as if he had been there before.
• The scene of Jack throwing the ball against the wall is shorter.
• After Wendy and Danny explore the maze, a sequence has been cut showing Wendy working in the kitchen while a TV announcer talks of a search in the mountains for a missing woman, and a snow-storm that is predicted to be moving in on Colorado.
• Following the scene in which Jack loses his temper with Wendy for interrupting him, the title THURSDAY was deleted.
• After the scene in which Danny is confronted by the Grady twins in the corridor, and they invite him to play with them, a scene has been cut in which Wendy and Danny are watching TV. Danny asks if he can go to his room to get his toy fire-engine and Wendy tells him to be quiet because Jack is sleeping.
• Some dialogue has been cut from the first conversation between Jack and Lloyd (Joe Turkel). Jack toasts, "Here's to five miserable months on the wagon and all the irreparable harm that it's caused me". Lloyd then asks him how things are, and Jack comments that they could be a whole lot better, that he is having trouble with his wife. Lloyd comments, "Women! Can't live with 'em. Can't live without 'em", and Jack wholeheartedly agrees.
• After he has returned from examining Room 237, Jack's conversation with Wendy is slightly shorter.
• After the scene between Jack and Grady (Philip Stone), a sequence has been cut in which Wendy is seen crying and talking to herself, musing about the possibility of getting down the mountain in the Sno-cat, and of calling the Forest Rangers. She then hears Danny calling out "red rum" over and over, but when she tries to talk to him, she is only 'answered' by Tony, who tells her that Danny can't hear her.
• A scene has been cut in which Hallorann tries to get through to the Overlook by calling the Ranger station. They tell him that they've tried to get through several times but there has been no answer, and they offer to try again later.
• Prior to the shot of Hallorann's plane, the title 8AM has been deleted.
• On the plane, Hallorann asks a stewardess what time they are due to land in Denver and she tells him at 8.20. Jack is then seen typing in the lounge of the Overlook. Hallorann's plane lands at the airport and he calls Larry Durkin (Tony Burton), a garage owner, to rent a Sno-cat so as to get up to the Overlook. Durkin says the mountain roads are completely blocked off, and Hallorann explains that the people looking after the hotel turned out to be "completely unreliable assholes". Hallorann estimates that it will take him five hours to drive from the airport to collect the cat, and Larry says the Snow-cat will be waiting for him when he arrives.
• The beginning of the scene in which Wendy finds Jack's type-written pages has been cut. She and Danny are watching television and she looks at her watch, telling Danny that she is going to talk to his father for a few minutes and that he should stay there. She picks up the baseball bat before leaving.
• In the final scene, when Jack is pursuing Danny through the maze and Wendy is being confronted by some of the Overlook spooks, a short scene where she encounters a group of skeletons sitting at a table with a champagne bottle and glasses has been cut.

 

As I recall, the U.S. release was different from the UK versi0n. Kubrick trimmed the UK version. The U.S. TV version had 4 minutes cut for it’s premiere.

 

I guess I got them confused. Mt wife reads all the books she can get her hands on and she mentioned it when we were watching the supplements. I'll have to go back and see but I'm pretty sure they mention the
animals moving around, I could be wrong again, idk.
Thanks for the input.

 

WOW! Thanks for that, Wayne.

 

I'm assuming this is not the only film where some command decision had to be made as to which edit would be the one licensed for 4K release.

Then again, I don't own any 4K discs, and don't know just how many releases are "Criterion-anal" about giving you as many versions as possible.

 

Well, I bought a new tv and optical drive and they came 4K ready so I buy 4K.
I guess my memory was off about something missing. They mention moving plants
I don't have one to watch that's another edition, and I don't doubt the posts above.

 

You mention Criterion.... I ve seen DVD's going for more than Blu-ray's on certain Criterion releases of the same movies. Who knows.