Received a CDR from Amazon.com second time this year for an album recently released.

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  1. Dave S

    Dave S Forum Resident

    The labels probably thought they were getting a good deal because they don't have to manufacture and distribute them.

    The way to avoid it is to do your online shopping elsewhere and buy used from your local shops.
     
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  2. Stan C

    Stan C Forum Resident

    I was ready to ship an sealed Bear Family Box Set on discogs and noticed something sounded loose. I told the buyer I would check what the problem was (dislodged CD) but when I checked the condition of the CDs they were all CD-Rs. I bought the set from Amazon Canada a long time ago. I was very surprised about the CD-Rs but I remember another member got a Bear Family Box Set with CD-Rs. I wonder how common it is that Bear Family Box sets use CD-Rs instead of regular CDs.
     
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  3. Michael

    Michael I LOVE WIDE S-T-E-R-E-O!

    it's the format! a pressed CD is more likely to last longer than a MOD CDR junk ...which usually suck after a decade...or even earlier. I've lost hundreds...
     
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  4. slipkid

    slipkid Forum Resident

    Plus there are the issues of godawful media being used (resulting in tons of flaws affecting playback), or burners that don't work well with a certain kind of media yet that media used anyway resulting in tons of flaws, or lacking firmware updates to burn said media at optimum speed, or good media used that is bad because of any # of factors (heat, cold, dirt/dust, you name it) - all resulting in possible flaws. As well as issues with some players not working well with CD-Rs. Then there is the decay factor that you mention, which can happen especially if you play the disc in your car or leave it there on a hot summer day or days. If I am spending money on a disc I want the "real thing", manufactured/pressed rather than burnt, and if that is not possible to get I at least need to KNOW that is what I am going to be receiving so I can decide if it is worth the possible hassle. I hate how vendors conceal this stuff...
     
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  5. Michael

    Michael I LOVE WIDE S-T-E-R-E-O!

    me too! if I ever received a CDR not advertised as such it would go back immediately...yes, nothing like the real thing! ; )
     
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  6. schnitzerphilip

    schnitzerphilip "Modern Dad" Unlocked Award

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    NJ USA
    So are you saying that after a few years the disc will be unplayable or it will degrade and chirp or skip? Trying to understand what the typical shelf life is of one of these MOD CDR's.
     
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  7. slipkid

    slipkid Forum Resident

    Impossible to say. Many factors involved. Could be decades. Could be bad the day you first try to play it. Who knows...
     
  8. Michael

    Michael I LOVE WIDE S-T-E-R-E-O!

    I have no idea, but I've had some CDRs that failed after a year or so and others that lasted decades...it's the luck of the draw...
     
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  9. Dave

    Dave Esoteric Audio Research Specialist™

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    I'd have to say on an average approximately 12 years. Of course this really means between 2 years to 15 years before failures due to medium degradation. I've had considerably more fail after 15 years compared to just 2 years.
     
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  10. RTurner

    RTurner Forum Resident

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    I've noticed that Amazon lists many of their cd listings as Format: CD-R lately. I will avoid taking that chance unless I can confirm from the seller that it is a factory cd.
     
  11. Mirrorblade.1

    Mirrorblade.1 Forum Resident

    Curt Smiths deceptive heavy is only available cdr
     
  12. Thoughtships

    Thoughtships Forum Resident

    Location:
    Devon, UK
    Couldn't find the big thread about CDRs so I'm posting this here.

    Received CD from Amazon.co.uk

    Miles Davis "The Lost Quintet"
    Grey Market radio show release, pretty recently released, I think.

    Yep. Turns out it's a CDR.

    Was not advertised as such so it's going back for a refund.

    Pretty outrageous really. Sigh.
     
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  13. mr.datsun

    mr.datsun Incompletist

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    Could you post the link to the cd you ordered please? Curious
     
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  14. eelkiller

    eelkiller Technically right but still wrong

    Grey area = unauthorized?
    Not a shock.
     
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  15. Thoughtships

    Thoughtships Forum Resident

    Location:
    Devon, UK
    I did it through the app.

    It's quite easy. Go to Amazon. Search for Miles Davis The Lost Quintet
     
  16. Thoughtships

    Thoughtships Forum Resident

    Location:
    Devon, UK
    I didn't say it was a shock.

    I simply posted so others knew.
     
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  17. mr.datsun

    mr.datsun Incompletist

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  18. Vaughan

    Vaughan Forum Resident

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    Either way it's reprehensible that they don't make it clear you're getting a CDR. They don't tell you because they know people would consider it inferior. It's lying by omission, imo.
     
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  19. Gene Parmesan

    Gene Parmesan "Rickey doesn't have albums. Rickey has CDs."

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  20. eelkiller

    eelkiller Technically right but still wrong

    You said "pretty outrageous really" which sounded like it was unexpected, sorry. Lots of reviews and not one mention of a CDR, is it possible someone is bootlegging the bootleggers? Or a second pressing on CDR?

    Here is the Discogs entry.
    Miles Davis - The Lost Quintet

    Only one item on the "label" so far.
    Sleepy Night Records Ltd
     
  21. Thoughtships

    Thoughtships Forum Resident

    Location:
    Devon, UK
    Could be. You may be right. If anyone else has this disc, please check.
    Thanks.
    :)
     
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  22. monewe

    monewe Forum Resident

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    SCOTLAND
    Got a couple of Little Milton discs recently and both were CD-R's and both went back for a refund. They weren't listed as such but what bugs me the most is they couldn't use decent quality discs as well usually the cheapest of the cheap that would last 5 minutes if that and you are paying full price.
     
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  23. MerseyBeatle

    MerseyBeatle Martha my dear (1995-2012)

    Location:
    Charleston, SC
    Just bought an Elvis Presley movie of what was advertised as a DVD, but received a made on demand DVD-R, manufactured by Amazon.com Columbia SC. I just returned it for a refund as the product page makes no mention of "manufactured on demand" or DVD-R. In fact the product page lists the format as DVD. Amazon used to have a disclaimer on their MOD titles, but apparently not any more. I don't mind them selling MOD discs if people want to buy them, but at least label it as such. Frustrating. :realmad:
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B084QKMX8D/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
    The UPC is 032429336699.
     
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  24. slipkid

    slipkid Forum Resident

    Thanks for the heads up/warning. I had no idea they were pulling this crap on videos/DVD-Rs (or+Rs) as well, thought it was just audio/CDRs.
     
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  25. Braitman

    Braitman Forum Resident

    This is a common tactic by Amazon to minimize costs for low-sales items. I receive CD-Rs from Amazon all the time for obscure world music titles such as from India, China, Vietnam, et al. It's frustrating for the lack of liner notes, particularly for various artists compilations where the individual tracks are not identified! (grrrr.....). Another reason for this is a CD released only in another country for which there is no licensing in the U.S. They might make a CD-R to avoid tariffs, taxes, and other fees associated with shipping a non-US item.
     
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